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A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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I realize this article is a tongue-in-cheek fan theory. However, it does make me wonder what Tarantino was up to with Pulp Fiction. The Ezekiel "quote" always bugged me because even without looking it up, anyone who spent any amount of time in the Old Testament, could tell that it was fabricated. "Finder of lost children" is not an OT motif in general, and certainly not in Ezekiel. Obviously, Tarantino knew people wo…

> The Ezekiel "quote" always bugged me because even without looking it up, anyone who spent any amount of time in the Old Testament, could tell that it was fabricated.

The quote comes from a film 20 years earlier, Karate Kiba, not from the OT (despite the attribution in PF).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kiba#Cultural_reference...

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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> The movie Pulp Fiction centers around a mysterious briefcase. We’re never told exactly what’s inside "Tarantino has admitted that there is no official explanation behind the briefcase’s contents, and that it was simply written into the screen play as an intriguing McGuffin." I liked the soul theory better i.e. Marcelus's soul was in the briefcase and he sold it to the devil.

The briefcase held a new drug that had been in development for 10 years, ever since Huey Lewis requested it in 1984.

The request that it not spill or come in a pill required a novel delivery system, producing the high via modulated stimulation of the optic nerve, but subtracting the shorter blue wavelengths that might disrupt the circadian regulatory system and therefore keep the user up all night or make them sleep all day. Hence, the golden glow.

Every time someone opens up the case, they are taking an e-drug.

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand there is X files. There really needs to be an "engineer plot" genre where plot stays consistent to a small set of made up axioms. "The Strain" made an attempt. It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? The way most of them work it's like cold fusion landing in one's lap.

> It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? From brains. Duh. ;)

I know someone who once trapped a cockroach in a box and sealed it shut. When the box was opened, years later, the roach was still alive. It had eaten some glue on the inside of the box, and then went into a kind of torpor, simply waiting for either death by dehydration or starvation or an opportunity to escape, whichever came first.

Zombies are like that. They gorge on fatty foods, like brains, bone marrow, and body fat, then go into an induced stasis that outwardly resembles death.

The zombinism vector is undoubtedly an endoparasitic fungus related to Cordyceps. Mycelium spreads throughout the host during the infection, preferentially following existing neural pathways, and flooding the body with antibiotics, to kill native gut bacteria and other possible putrefying factors. The normal digestive functions are destroyed. The regular circulatory system is destroyed. The only elements preserved are sensory organs, muscles, skin, and bones. All other functions are replaced by the fungus. The mycelium, as it followed the existing neurons, actually grows into a replacement brain and nervous system as it destroys the host's nervous system.

The copy isn't perfect, though, and genetically hardcoded structures produce an instinctual desire to seek out and eat more fat. Destroying the head does not actually kill the fungus, but it does remove its ability to create a facsimile of a mammalian brain, by scrambling the template. It could still make the muscles twitch, but would have no means of coordinating them into coherent movements.

I would therefore expect a zombie running low on energy to have almost no fat left, and ascocarps growing out of it all over, like cactus spines. It would probably resemble a spiky mummy. Any rotting appearance would be due to colonies of microorganisms that have evolved resistance to the fungal antibiotics.

So it's not just eating brains, but also not spending as much energy as a human normally does while using the organs evolved to keep a human brain alive.

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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> The movie Pulp Fiction centers around a mysterious briefcase. We’re never told exactly what’s inside "Tarantino has admitted that there is no official explanation behind the briefcase’s contents, and that it was simply written into the screen play as an intriguing McGuffin." I liked the soul theory better i.e. Marcelus's soul was in the briefcase and he sold it to the devil.

The briefcase held a new drug that had been in development for 10 years, ever since Huey Lewis requested it in 1984. The request that it not spill or come in a pill required a novel delivery system, producing the high via modulated stimulation of the optic nerve, but subtracting the shorter blue wavelengths that might disrupt the circadian regulatory system and therefore keep the user up all night or make them sleep…

"If you all are anything like me then you had no idea what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. So, through a friend of a friend of a friend who had a two hour conversation with Quentin Tarantino himself, I now know, and I thought I would pass along the information because it makes the movie even 100 times better than it already is.

Remember the first time you were introduced to Marsellus Wallace. The first shot of him was of the back of his head, complete with band-aid. Then, remember the combination of the lock on the briefcase was 666. Then, remember that whenever anyone opened the briefcase, it glowed, and they were in amazement at how beautiful it was; they were speechless. Now, bring in some Bible knowledge, and remember that when the devil takes your soul, he takes it from the back of your head.

Yep, you guessed it. What is the most beautiful thing about a person: his soul. Marsellus Wallace had sold his soul to the devil, and was trying to buy it back. The three kids in the beginning of the movie were the devil’s helpers. And remember that when the kid at the end came out of the bathroom with a 'hand cannon,' Jules and Vincent were not harmed by the bullets. 'God came down and stopped the bullets' because they were saving a soul. It was divine intervention."

https://www.snopes.com/movies/films/pulpfiction.asp

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? The way most of them work it's like cold fusion landing in one's lap. Zombies, like vampires in the pre-industrial age, are meant to represent the horrors that lurk beyond the limits of human understanding and control. Although I'm sure some author has attempted to "harden" zombies…

Speaking of monsters from the Id, Forbidden Planet was another excellent piece of SciFi with a consistent logical framework. (Also: Leslie Nielsen's first starring role).

Also, IMHO, one of the best designed robots ever to appear in cinema[0].

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robby_the_Robot

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #5

If you enjoyed this, you'll probably enjoy the Unsong book, by the same author. It's basically the same idea, only bigger and better. http://unsongbook.com/

I feel like Unsong is much more attractive to a community of programmers if you describe it as King James Programming in story form :)

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand there is X files. There really needs to be an "engineer plot" genre where plot stays consistent to a small set of made up axioms. "The Strain" made an attempt. It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? The way most of them work it's like cold fusion landing in one's lap.

>It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? The way most of them work it's like cold fusion landing in one's lap. Zombies, like vampires in the pre-industrial age, are meant to represent the horrors that lurk beyond the limits of human understanding and control. Although I'm sure some author has attempted to "harden" zombies…

I thought vampires were more about people who feed energetically on other people. Child molesters and the like.

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The briefcase held a new drug that had been in development for 10 years, ever since Huey Lewis requested it in 1984. The request that it not spill or come in a pill required a novel delivery system, producing the high via modulated stimulation of the optic nerve, but subtracting the shorter blue wavelengths that might disrupt the circadian regulatory system and therefore keep the user up all night or make them sleep…

"If you all are anything like me then you had no idea what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. So, through a friend of a friend of a friend who had a two hour conversation with Quentin Tarantino himself, I now know, and I thought I would pass along the information because it makes the movie even 100 times better than it already is. Remember the first time you were introduced to Marsellus Wallace. The first shot of…

The briefcase held the actual, original MacGuffin and the actual, original Chekhov's gun--which was never fired in the movie. The former was the treasure that had been used as a nonspecific plot device by Sophocles, Menander, and an unbroken line of storytellers, through Shakespeare, and ending with Alfred Hitchcock, George Lucas, and Quentin Tarantino. The latter had a more recent origin, but somehow ended up in Tarantino's possession without him knowing of its significance.

It is somewhat obvious that Tarantino lost the plot devices some time after production, as they reappeared in fused form 6 years later in "Dude, Where's My Car?"

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand there is X files. There really needs to be an "engineer plot" genre where plot stays consistent to a small set of made up axioms. "The Strain" made an attempt. It boggles the mind why not in a single one of the zombie stories out there nobody bothered to wonder where the zombies get the energy? The way most of them work it's like cold fusion landing in one's lap.

People who love this genre hang out at https://www.reddit.com/r/rational They call it "rational fiction". There is quite some overlap with fan fiction, because people like to "fix" non-rational fiction. Eliezer Yudkowsky and his take on Harry Potter is the prime example. I can also recommend Alexander Wales who also made original fiction. Probably the oldest related work is A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court…

I can't thank you enough for this pointer. Just what I had in mind :-)

Re: A History of the Silmarils in the Fifth Age

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who love this genre hang out at https://www.reddit.com/r/rational They call it "rational fiction". There is quite some overlap with fan fiction, because people like to "fix" non-rational fiction. Eliezer Yudkowsky and his take on Harry Potter is the prime example. I can also recommend Alexander Wales who also made original fiction. Probably the oldest related work is A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court…

I can't thank you enough for this pointer. Just what I had in mind :-)

A slightly better pointer might be the wiki of the subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/wiki/index
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