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Re: The iPhone X

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Post by bsaul »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #13

Cut Gruber some slack. He needs to stay in Apple's graces.

That’s where we are now. We integrated sponsored content so much, that we don’t even get angry when some bloggers, writing under his own personal name, seems to have been paid to write a piece of ad, in what is supposed to be a personnal opinion.

This whole culture needs to go down the sh_tter. We tolerate youtubers lying about things they like, bloggers lying about their own opinions, companies hidding abusive conditions in their terms of usage, reselling private data, and we consider it all fine because it’s made for the purpose of gaining money.

Man, capitalism isn’t about moral, but even capitalistic societies need some kind of ethic...

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by mcphage »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

> This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards.

Agreed... this was the most Gruber-y he's ever Grubered: "Is the higher price of the iPhone X over the iPhones 8 justified? [...] But you also get something you can’t compare in a checkmark comparison — a sort of joie de vivre."

> I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

That's definitely not true. While he generally likes their products, he's definitely critical of them when he thinks they mess up. If all you read of his are these posts shared on HN, you'll probably only read his glowing reviews. And if you don't like his writing, then sure, there's no point in seeking him out. But don't assume that because you don't read his criticisms, that he doesn't—can't!—write them, because he most assuredly does.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by jsz0 »

shizzleberry wrote: post #14
jsz0 wrote: post #11

The iPhone X hardware is great but they dropped the ball big time on software quality/reliability. I still encounter major home/swipe related glitches that require a reboot a couple of times per week. It seems like the point releases are causing more problems than they fix which is concerning. iOS seems to be in a nasty downward spiral of reliability.

I hear people saying this a ton, aside from the slow face unlock, I haven't experienced many glitches. What am I not doing wrong? Is there a specific gesture to trigger one of these bugs (genuine question)?

The home/swipe related bugs seem to be related to accidental touch detection and/or swiping before animations fully complete. For example this morning I had to reboot my phone because I couldn't swipe to unlock from the lock screen. It was stuck in 'notification mode' so it thought my swipes were to view my notifications instead of unlocking. Immediately before this happened I had cleared all my notifications which resulted in a very choppy animation. My previous reboot before this was caused by getting stuck in Music after trying to swipe down in Music to get off the 'now playing' screen. For some reason this always requires multiple tries so I probably set off some accidental touch detection lockout.

It's a death by a thousand paper cuts thing. There is no one bug that can be easily fixed. It's dozens (maybe hundreds) of small annoyances like the keyboard absolutely refusing to register a keypress that goes against it's prediction of what I want to type. Another fun one is I get floods of old notifications randomly usually from phone/messages -- like a voicemail notification from a month ago. I don't even care if Siri doesn't work well or if I have to enter my PIN slightly more often because of FaceID. I just want the fundamentals to work reliably.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by tobix »

"And for reasons I’ve never been able to understand, Android handset makers seem willing to copy everything and anything from Apple they can get away with... but none have copied the iPhone’s mute switch, despite the fact that it’s a brilliant idea." OnePlus 5 and onwards? Although I think it may be the only Android phone to have one.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

dpcx wrote: post #9
brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

While it does read as a fanboy article, Gruber has criticized Apple at least a few times in the past. Here's one example, in particular. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/04/08/snell-3d-touch

When I first read Gruber he spent quite a bit of his time attacking Apple for abandoning lots of the good stuff from OS9 in favor of the promise offered by the (relatively) clean but at-the-time untested underpinnings of OSX.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by TwoNineA »

endorphone wrote: post #2

"After two months using an iPhone X, I’m convinced Apple succeeded. The iPhone X is a triumph, a delightful conceptual modernization of a ten-year-old platform that, prior to using the iPhone X, I didn’t think needed a modernization." There's the tldr. And for anyone accustomed to Gruber's writing, it was a predictable conclusion.

TL;DR; should be something like:

Apple fanboy likes iPhone X! News at 11.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by barrkel »

tobix wrote: post #24

"And for reasons I’ve never been able to understand, Android handset makers seem willing to copy everything and anything from Apple they can get away with... but none have copied the iPhone’s mute switch, despite the fact that it’s a brilliant idea." OnePlus 5 and onwards? Although I think it may be the only Android phone to have one.

I could do without that switch - I use Tasker to toggle silent mode based on location rules, and I prefer to e.g. use a timer to turn on no-disturb for a movie, rather than needing to remember to re-enable sounds.

The probability that I'm e.g. at a meeting and don't want to be disturbed is far less likely than simply keeping the phone on silent for the whole work day. It just doesn't fit a use case for me.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by brian-armstrong »

mcphage wrote: post #22
brian-armstrong wrote: post #3

This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to.

> This is an incredibly fanboy-y article even by Gruber standards. Agreed... this was the most Gruber-y he's ever Grubered: "Is the higher price of the iPhone X over the iPhones 8 justified? [...] But you also get something you can’t compare in a checkmark comparison — a sort of joie de vivre ." > I'm not sure he's physically capable of criticizing Apple, even if he wanted to. That's definitely not true. While he gen…

There was some stretch of time where I'd visit his blog once every week or so and catch up. He has a tendency to take Apple flaws and spin them as good things. Even when he does criticize Apple it's only half heartedly.

I'm not sure who wins the spin competition between him and Paul Thurrott

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by mitchty »

randomsearch wrote: post #19
endorphone wrote: post #2

"After two months using an iPhone X, I’m convinced Apple succeeded. The iPhone X is a triumph, a delightful conceptual modernization of a ten-year-old platform that, prior to using the iPhone X, I didn’t think needed a modernization." There's the tldr. And for anyone accustomed to Gruber's writing, it was a predictable conclusion.

I would agree with this summary. I think Apple knocked it out of the park this time, confounding my expectations that everything would be generally terrible post-Steve. They can reinvent something spectacularly well. But can they create something entirely new that is also wonderful? This is the real test they have yet to pass.

I know everyone is all poo poo on the iPhone x in here. But my prior phone was 3 years old (original 6+, the battery was already starting to... well have issues, was already at over 1k cycles), so I bought the X.

Have to say I like it, its just thinner enough width wise. And the one feature it has is brilliant in winter. I can unlock my phone without removing my gloves. And yes, these gloves are the ones that work with capacitive touch screens. Good luck getting gloves to work with a finger sensor, or to be able to type anything with them reliably in -20F weather.

So... basically it seems like a solid release overall. Of course I have gripes, the control center swipe is annoying to hit for example but overall its fine. Expensive sure, but if I upgrade every 2-3 years whatever.

Re: The iPhone X

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Post by moogly »

bla2 wrote: post #16

In short, with the iPhone X Apple took a platform with two primary means of interacting with the apps — a touchscreen and a home button — removed one of them, and created a better, more integrated, more organic experience. [...] Android handset makers seem willing to copy everything and anything from Apple they can get away with...

That's pretty funny considering the iPhone X is the most Android-like phone so far, what with a) getting rid of the home button b) AMOLED screen (welcome to 2009) c) wireless charging. Finally an iPhone with some decent hardware features.
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