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Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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I think, the further back in history we go, the kookier things get - and that this is a positive, not a negative aspect of the experience. We in the modern age have conditioned ourselves to be subjugated to science - well, for the humans alive 20,000 years ago, cave-paintings were science. The fact that we don't understand them now, and have very strong opinions about the nature of civilisation in that period of huma…

> Perhaps the ancients did have anti-gravity capable flying machines Anti-gravity like that is essentially impossible according to physics. Even if you decide that you think general relativity is wrong, if a society had antigravity, we would expect to see many more signs of their technological advancement. Unless of course you want to believe that they used some sort of magic, using say incantations instead of techno…

The point is, we don't know everything there is to know about propulsion. "Anti-gravity" is just a useless phrase, sure, but .. maybe its more of a "gravity-bending" technology, who knows.

That's really the point I think, is being made. We don't know everything there is to know about how the universe works. Just because ancient cultures might have left us clues to check ourselves before we wreck ourselves, doesn't mean we should not indeed check ourselves.

I mean, I'm all for the idea that we discover this kind of technology buried under an old village somewhere. Sounds kind of fun to me - you know, like .. electricity might've sounded fun and exotic at some point ..

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think, the further back in history we go, the kookier things get - and that this is a positive, not a negative aspect of the experience. We in the modern age have conditioned ourselves to be subjugated to science - well, for the humans alive 20,000 years ago, cave-paintings were science. The fact that we don't understand them now, and have very strong opinions about the nature of civilisation in that period of huma…

> I'm personally unconvinced that there weren't ancient civilisations with advanced technologies, yet undiscovered, which moved mountains for their own purposes. This idea is so old it's like beating a dead horse by now. Just the idea that we are not capable of these incredible things just goes to show how little you understand or respect human ingenuity. > Heck, even the Pentagon admits it doesn't know it all about…

>"respect human"

You say tomato, I say 'contemporary hubris for/against ancient, misunderstood cultures'. I do, indeed, have a great deal of respect for human ingenuity, or I wouldn't be having this conversation with you, presumably a human, in the first place.

>PR stunt

I would say that we've been talking about PR stunts all along, no? I mean, what else could cave-paintings be?

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think, the further back in history we go, the kookier things get - and that this is a positive, not a negative aspect of the experience. We in the modern age have conditioned ourselves to be subjugated to science - well, for the humans alive 20,000 years ago, cave-paintings were science. The fact that we don't understand them now, and have very strong opinions about the nature of civilisation in that period of huma…

> Perhaps the ancients did have anti-gravity capable flying machines Anti-gravity like that is essentially impossible according to physics. Even if you decide that you think general relativity is wrong, if a society had antigravity, we would expect to see many more signs of their technological advancement. Unless of course you want to believe that they used some sort of magic, using say incantations instead of techno…

>Even if you decide that you think general relativity is wrong, if a society had antigravity, we would expect to see many more signs of their technological advancement.

Maybe they got the technology, and subsequently used it to leave Earth alone, eh? And maybe it was the relatives they left behind that used that as a motivation for creative/artistic expression, in the dark, back here on Earth?

I mean, this is really the point of these art-forms; open to interpretation. And frankly the notion that one ideal over the other should prevail is, perhaps, a bit ignorant?

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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One explanation for the universality of these symbols is that they are entopic images - artifacts of the eye and visual system that are perceived during trance/psychedelic states. Maybe associated with a widespread shamanic religion of this time period?

http://entheology.com/research/entoptic-imagery-and-altered-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_in_the_Cave

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Because humans existed and traveled for hundreds of thousands of years (beyond what most average modern folks can conceptualize). We don't fully give ancient peoples enough credit cause they didn't completely fuck the environment up and didn't leave much evidence. Not at all shocking...only our true ignorance being shocking.

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What your archaeologist doesn't know about cave symbols can KILL YOU

You may be interested in the podcast audio drama "The White Vault".

It's very well produced.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Every time I see something like this, I'm reminded of one of my favourite crackpot/artists of all time, Stanislaw Szukalski and his mad theories about "Protong", the proto-language of a civilisation that was destroyed by a cataclysm some 65,000 years ago, which - according to him - was the language of the first human civilisation across the globe, and which survived - barely - as a 'forgotten remembered language' in…

I had no idea Yetis were into Communism! :-)

Thanks for this, it makes entertaining reading on a cold winter's day in front of a roaring fire.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Every time I see something like this, I'm reminded of one of my favourite crackpot/artists of all time, Stanislaw Szukalski and his mad theories about "Protong", the proto-language of a civilisation that was destroyed by a cataclysm some 65,000 years ago, which - according to him - was the language of the first human civilisation across the globe, and which survived - barely - as a 'forgotten remembered language' in…

I had no idea Yetis were into Communism! :-) Thanks for this, it makes entertaining reading on a cold winter's day in front of a roaring fire.

It is, indeed, a rabbit-hole. But I like the Protong bit personally!

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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No, that is not even remotely resembling what you claim.

Look again, I know the picture isnt the best, but its spot on.

Ahhhhh no, but you might want to check your confirmation bias.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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'slashdotted' works just as well (and is even preferred by many)

Except that Slashdot doesn't have a userbase capable of bringing a server to it's knees anymore.

Hardly a unique phenomenon. In society we have so many terms as a nod to their (deceased) inventor(s), or as a nod to a (deceased) person of interest.
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