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Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by michaelsbradley »

tzs wrote: post #67

> Among the elaborate horses, bulls, bears and hunters, there are some other rather less captivating designs – small geometric motifs, etched onto the walls. Until now, they’ve not received much attention. I would have expected the opposite. Someone drawing animals and hunters could easily be explained simply by them drawing what they see everyday. Those other things, though, are harder to explain as merely drawings…

Not hard to explain: they were simply drawing the glow discharges they saw in the sky. The growing body of theory–research isn't well known yet; for an introduction, see Peratt's groundbreaking paper from 2003:

Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current, Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity

http://plasmauniverse.info/downloadsCosmo/PerattTPSv31-2003c...

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by meri_dian »

All the symbols are simple, I wouldn't be surprised if many children around the world scribble similar signs while doodling. It seems likely to me that the signs arose in disparate locations through sheer coincidence instead of through an active Paleolithic common culture or a miraculously preserved memory of some ancient heritage - the ultimate source of the symbols - shared by far flung groups.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by sd8dgf8ds8g8dsg »

mmjaa wrote: post #69
justin_vanw wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just 'ancient astronaut' nonsense. If you gave modern people some incentive to move big stones around without heavy machinery they would figure out how to do it in a couple of months. It's just not hard to do, and people have been moving much larger pieces of stone during recorded history, so we know the techniques used perfectly well. Lots of the obelisks in Rome are far larger than any prehistoric stones mo…

I think, the further back in history we go, the kookier things get - and that this is a positive, not a negative aspect of the experience. We in the modern age have conditioned ourselves to be subjugated to science - well, for the humans alive 20,000 years ago, cave-paintings were science. The fact that we don't understand them now, and have very strong opinions about the nature of civilisation in that period of huma…

> I'm personally unconvinced that there weren't ancient civilisations with advanced technologies, yet undiscovered, which moved mountains for their own purposes.

This idea is so old it's like beating a dead horse by now. Just the idea that we are not capable of these incredible things just goes to show how little you understand or respect human ingenuity.

> Heck, even the Pentagon admits it doesn't know it all about UFO's, c'mon ..

This didn't happen... ?

Rather, a ex-pentagon guy was recruited by an ex-pop singer guy's nonsense organization, with some nonsense claims.

This is called a PR stunt.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by shervinafshar »

amelius wrote: post #53

What are the corresponding Unicode code points?

Here's a try:

Aviform: ︷ U+FE37 PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT CURLY

Circle: ◯ U+25EF LARGE CIRCLE

Claviform: 1 U+0031 DIGIT ONE (Or anything confusable with it [1])

Cordiform: U+2661 WHITE HEART SUIT

Crosshatch: # U+0023 NUMBER SIGN

Cruciform: × U+00D7 MULTIPLICATION SIGN (or anything confusable with it [2])

Cupule: U+26AC MEDIUM SMALL WHITE CIRCLE

Dot: · U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT (or anything confusable with it [3])

Half Circle: ◡ U+25E1 LOWER HALF CIRCLE

Line: ⎯ U+23AF HORIZONTAL LINE EXTENSION

Negative Hand: U+1F91A RAISED BACK OF HAND

Open Angle: ⦣ U+29A3 REVERSED ANGLE

Oval: ⭖ U+2B56 HEAVY OVAL WITH OVAL INSIDE

Positive Hand: U+270B RAISED HAND

Quadrangle: ▭ U+25AD WHITE RECTANGLE

Serpentiform: U+1F40D SNAKE

Spiral: 1F300 CYCLONE

Tectiform: ⤉ U+2909 UPWARDS ARROW WITH HORIZONTAL STROKE

Triangle: ▽ U+25BD WHITE DOWN-POINTING TRIANGLE

Zigzag: ⦚ U+299A VERTICAL ZIGZAG LINE

Edit: formatting.

[1]: https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/confusables.jsp?a=1&r=IDNA2...

[2]: https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/confusables.jsp?a=%C3%97&r=...

[3]: https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/confusables.jsp?a=%C2%B7&r=...

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by sd8dgf8ds8g8dsg »

jsz0 wrote: post #74
brango wrote: post #22

The mainstream view of our history has some massive unexplained mysteries. For example the ability of ancient people to work with massive slabs of stone in a way we'd struggle to do now even with modern machinery. Not just the Pyramids and Stonehenge, but the stone foundations at Cuzco and also Baalbeck temple which apparently has foundational stones estimated to weigh 1000 tons.

Almost all of these mysteries are all easily explained by acknowledging we under estimated the abilities of ancient anatomically modern humans.

Indeed. This seems to be the most common fallacy when looking into ancient astronaut claims.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by IncRnd »

rebuilder wrote: post #62
brango wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget they had to drag them from Southern Wales. Getting them in place was just the final phenomenal feat.

It's impressive, yes. And probably we don't know exactly how it was done. But that's not the same as saying it's an unexplained mystery - we just don't know which particular methods they used, even if we know one or more ways in which it could have been done.

> And probably we don't know exactly how it was done. But that's not the same as saying it's an unexplained mystery

That is the meaning of unexplained mystery, something mysterious and unexplained.

Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by beamatronic »

avip wrote: post #65
yipopov wrote: post #48

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Re: Symbols Found in Ice Age Caves Across Europe (2015)

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Post by spraak »

timonoko wrote: post #75

I bet the omnipresent "Sun"-symbol is removed from results, to conform with German Laws and general sentiments. You can find it on Nordic Runes and Tibetan tapestry and American Indian tepee decorations. And it always means "Sun" or "Good Luck" or something positive. Except after 1945 it does not.

I don't see any sources regarding it being found in North America or Northern Europe, specifically Runes. Can you share?
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