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The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Google might be ahead in some conversational things, but functionality wise, Alexa is way better.

Probably has something to do with being on the market first, but developing a skill is a much better experience than it is with Google (imo). I think that's a big reason why.

I've developed a number of skills for some big companies, and I'm fighting Amazon right now about getting my open source one published (https://github.com/m0ngr31/kodi-alexa)

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Google is miles ahead in terms of a conversational assistant. There is a lot of friction in using voice activated services. If I have a choice of typing "Weather in XXXXX zip" in the address bar vs. asking an assistant, I choose the former. Therefore, every time I use anything else but Google, I am afraid it won't recognize my command and I immediately feel like throwing that thing out of the window. I need to be 100…

I got a google home solely because it came w/ a hue package and tried to show it to my family. The Home couldn't hear me over itself (music) across the kitchen... My alexa can hear what I'm saying down the corridor with the shower on and much louder. It was embarassing

The mic quality is my only complaint with the Google Home (mini). I hope they fix that next model cause it's amazing otherwise.

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Ok, it is cheap. It is also cool. But does the techies here find it really useful? If so, why?

I like that it integrates well with spotify. I can have it play real american by rick derringer while I'm flexing in front of the mirror without having to break my sweet poses.

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Google is miles ahead in terms of a conversational assistant. There is a lot of friction in using voice activated services. If I have a choice of typing "Weather in XXXXX zip" in the address bar vs. asking an assistant, I choose the former. Therefore, every time I use anything else but Google, I am afraid it won't recognize my command and I immediately feel like throwing that thing out of the window. I need to be 100…

And Amazon is ahead in cash money dollars, market penetration and app/IoT integrations. Also, don't think for a second that they're lazing about and not trying to figure out how to surpass Google in the areas where they're behind.

I think they're both barely better than useless, but the software for both is only going to improve. Amazon is going to hire the AI people and build up their own knowledgebase in the A9 team over the next few years, and Google is going to make the partnerships to reach third party skills parity over the next few months.

The right way to choose between them is by looking at the hardware, and the reviews I've seen say that the Echo Dot is too quiet. That can't be fixed in software.

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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I got new tires, but didn't buy a car, so they are worthless. That is basically what you are saying here. We both agree, it will tell you the weather, your commute, and play some music. Those are the things you grew tired of, but many people have their entire homes wired to these devices (me included). I don't use them daily, I use them hourly at home. It runs my sprinklers, lawn mowers, vacuums, lights, alarms, time…

That is the creepiest thing ive ever read on HN. I am 25 so maybe I am just getting jaded but that seems incredibly intrusive.

I don't really feel like it's creepy. But I DO believe that we need to come up with a different word other than "invest" for contexts like this.

Because when anyone talks about "investing" in a wifi lawnmower, or any other consumer gadget, I think they're seriously misusing the word...

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got new tires, but didn't buy a car, so they are worthless. That is basically what you are saying here. We both agree, it will tell you the weather, your commute, and play some music. Those are the things you grew tired of, but many people have their entire homes wired to these devices (me included). I don't use them daily, I use them hourly at home. It runs my sprinklers, lawn mowers, vacuums, lights, alarms, time…

That is the creepiest thing ive ever read on HN. I am 25 so maybe I am just getting jaded but that seems incredibly intrusive.

I am late 20s and hate talking to computers. Especially when they pretend to be friendly or crack jokes (like Siri), it’s creepy

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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post #29

Makes sense, but give me the Google Home. The Chromecast pairing is insane, a better speaker in the mini, and frankly, I'll invite Google to own my life before Amazon.

Out of curiosity, why Goole before Amazon?

Personally I resent the fact that Amazon has done everything in their power as a company to make it so I cannot stream amazon prime to my chromecast.

That alone has tarnished my opinion of the company.

Re: The Echo Dot was the best-selling product on Amazon this holiday season

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Makes sense, but give me the Google Home. The Chromecast pairing is insane, a better speaker in the mini, and frankly, I'll invite Google to own my life before Amazon.

Alexa can control your Fire TV but yes, I agree. I have a Chromecast built into TV and I use Google Home to play music, Plex, YouTube, etc. on it. So nice.
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