So, basically all ad networks like zeropark, popads, popcash, propeller ads, will soon disappear?
An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
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Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#12There are no "better" ads. The only good ads are the ones I cannot see. My computer, my rules. Lately now blocking coin mining in addition to all ads, trackers, beacons, pixels, etc. I have the right to surf on my terms. Traffic to websites is a cost of doing business; don't try to recoup in ways that I never agreed to (mining), selling my data w/o my permissions, etc. You have to love the tripe in the article: "Bett…
I had so much respect for Google about a decade ago. Now they are on the same level as Microsoft. The Orweillian attempts at redefining language is... not surprising. This is beyond regular corporate-speak. Their search results are full of spam. They take hostage Gmail accounts. It seems that everything "cool" they do... has a sinister, ulterior motive. I don't know if all the good they have done outweighs the bad.
> They take hostage Gmail accounts.
> I don't know if all the good they have done outweighs the bad.
Well, I wouldn't call Google outright sinister. That's just what happens when capitalism goes unchecked. Too bad that even the EU, even the mothership of regulations Germany, didn't have the guts to put some red lines (and consumer rights!) towards Google.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#13An attempt by Google to take over the Adblocking market and thus maintain their own whitelist which will obviously not block Adsense ads. I have already moved over to firefox
> maintain their own whitelist which will obviously not block Adsense ads You make this sound like some kind of trick. The stated goal is to block especially obnoxious ads, of the kind adsense doesn't do. I can't say if it's going to be fair or not, but the way it treads adsense specifically isn't going to be the deciding factor.
>The stated goal is to block especially obnoxious ads, of the kind adsense doesn't do.
Either way you think the relation goes probably depends on your opinion of Google, but I would take this as thinking backwards.
Google has lots of interest in preventing Adsense from being blocked as part of some broad-stroke policy, so everything they do as part of their adblocking policy has that in mind - wherever users prefer the Chrome native policy, Google wins. Whatever criteria gets picked for the adblocker is going to fit Adsense pretty well, or else Google loses.
If Adsense, and the ad revenue model, weren't deciding factors in introducing these partial blockers in the first place, Google wouldn't be taking the steps to implement one.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My computer, my rules Or maybe their website, their rules? Otherwise this is like walking into a store and telling them to take off their ads, because your eyes, your rules.
It's like requesting a chocolate bar, paying for the delivery, and the store sends you a truck full of garbage with that chocolate bar at the bottom. Sorry I'm all out of car-themed analogies.
What part of sending a GET request to view a web page corresponds to ordering chocolate bar?
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#15There are no "better" ads. The only good ads are the ones I cannot see. My computer, my rules. Lately now blocking coin mining in addition to all ads, trackers, beacons, pixels, etc. I have the right to surf on my terms. Traffic to websites is a cost of doing business; don't try to recoup in ways that I never agreed to (mining), selling my data w/o my permissions, etc. You have to love the tripe in the article: "Bett…
I had so much respect for Google about a decade ago. Now they are on the same level as Microsoft. The Orweillian attempts at redefining language is... not surprising. This is beyond regular corporate-speak. Their search results are full of spam. They take hostage Gmail accounts. It seems that everything "cool" they do... has a sinister, ulterior motive. I don't know if all the good they have done outweighs the bad.
The old Google Toolbar had a warning with big red font saying “THIS IS NOT YOUR USUAL YADA TADA”. It explained the page rank feature sends what domains you visit to Google for checking their pagerank, and how Google processed that specific information.
It gave you the choice to enable or disable, in equally sized buttons.
Today, you instal Chrome and are immediately asked to sign in without being aware this “syncs” your browsing history to Google.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My computer, my rules Or maybe their website, their rules? Otherwise this is like walking into a store and telling them to take off their ads, because your eyes, your rules.
Sorry, but nobody ever promised to render your website in any specific way; my browser does whatever I programmed it to do. I might be using w3m. I might be using a browser you never heard of. I might be using a text-to-speech engine. Website owners do not get to set the rules on my machine, no matter how badly they want to.
You can put on rose-colored glasses (or AR goggles) when you walk into a store, too. I don't really see a contradiction.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My computer, my rules Or maybe their website, their rules? Otherwise this is like walking into a store and telling them to take off their ads, because your eyes, your rules.
Not a great analogy. We all know that HTML is an opt-in language, in that user-agents are designed to render the tags that they support and ignore the ones they don't. My user -agents do not support ads at all.
Your glasses (or AR goggles) when you walk into the store would correspond to the HTML renderer here.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's like requesting a chocolate bar, paying for the delivery, and the store sends you a truck full of garbage with that chocolate bar at the bottom. Sorry I'm all out of car-themed analogies.
What part of sending a GET request to view a web page corresponds to ordering chocolate bar?
A GET request is not a request to view a web page, it is a request to receive the page. It is up the recipient to determine if and how the page should be rendered.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#19I'm not a lawyer, but it just seems like the biggest online ad peddler of the world blocking ads of exclusively it's competitors in his preinstalled browser on the most widely used mobile platform in the world is a recipe for a blockbuster anti-trust sanction.
Re: An update on Better Ads (Chrome native ad-blocking)
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, but nobody ever promised to render your website in any specific way; my browser does whatever I programmed it to do. I might be using w3m. I might be using a browser you never heard of. I might be using a text-to-speech engine. Website owners do not get to set the rules on my machine, no matter how badly they want to.
You can put on rose-colored glasses (or AR goggles) when you walk into a store, too. I don't really see a contradiction.
Exactly: you can put on AR goggles and have them draw opaque rectangles over all the ads in the store, and there is nothing wrong with that.