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Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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He stated what I have felt for years, in words much better than I could.

If you struggle to disconnect from social media because you feel like you’ll miss out on friends, remember this: If social media is the only thing connecting you to a friend, they aren’t that good of a friend anyway. Your true friends will not disappear if you delete Facebook.

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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He's just another rich asshole working a new angle now that he made his billion. At no point in time during his time at FB did he have a conscience? He could have done more earlier. Just seems like he's working a new angle now to grow his billion into two.

So we should ignore what he says about Facebook?

No but you should take it with a grain of salt when he talks about "getting a seat at the table" and the ideas he has.

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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I have been saying that for a while now. Social media is great for the individual but horrible for society.

It's just a tool, thought. It doesn't preclude the capacity for any individual to have a critical thinking about news and events.

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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I wouldn't by any stretch call social media "all evil". It has its problems, a lot of them. But, for me personally, it's just an extension of the rest of the internet, where I encounter people and ideas that I wouldn't otherwise stumble into. I grew up in a fairly poor, extremely white setting and social media (and its precursors, IRC and the like) was, no joke, pretty much the first exposure I had to people who were…

I too grew up during the dawn of the Internet and "information age" in general. It was a wonderful time to be living, and an even better time to be a teenager -- we had such a leg up on the previous generation because we KNEW the 'net was going to be huge, and most of them thought of it as just another passing fad. I have fond memories of even pre-Internet, dialing into local BBS' on 28.8 baud modems -- which of cour…

But I can't bring myself to lump the current day 'social media' (ie; Twitter, Facebook, etc.) into the same category as IRC.

There was no magician behind the curtain of IRC statistically evaluating every line of text before deciding whether or not showing it to you would or would not make you spend more time on IRC, and interjecting an ad every few lines. And you saw it in order too, there was no monkeying with that...

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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Oh get over yourself, this video is disgustingly egotistical. "ripping apart the social fabric", I absolutely doubt that. This is getting way out of hand. Social media isn't ripping any core values apart, and nothing he has said in this video proves it.

Just curious if you’ve any anecdotes about behavior of nouveau generation. While not a parent myself I’ve heard many times from parent and youth peers that the new generations are entirely lacking IRL social skills, instead deferring their social lives entirely to their digital presence. As a result, basic conversational skills development is limited.

Maybe it's just another case of the new generation just isn't like the old generation. Jazz music, rock music, drugs, cars, fast women, violent video games, porn... You name it and every generation has something the previous generation thinks is destroying society.

Social media is the new rock n roll.

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too grew up during the dawn of the Internet and "information age" in general. It was a wonderful time to be living, and an even better time to be a teenager -- we had such a leg up on the previous generation because we KNEW the 'net was going to be huge, and most of them thought of it as just another passing fad. I have fond memories of even pre-Internet, dialing into local BBS' on 28.8 baud modems -- which of cour…

But I can't bring myself to lump the current day 'social media' (ie; Twitter, Facebook, etc.) into the same category as IRC. There was no magician behind the curtain of IRC statistically evaluating every line of text before deciding whether or not showing it to you would or would not make you spend more time on IRC, and interjecting an ad every few lines. And you saw it in order too, there was no monkeying with that.…

Twitter shows me every tweet from everyone I follow. Yet it is "social media".

Facebook is a tire fire, sure, but there are distinctions worth making.

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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Oh get over yourself, this video is disgustingly egotistical. "ripping apart the social fabric", I absolutely doubt that. This is getting way out of hand. Social media isn't ripping any core values apart, and nothing he has said in this video proves it.

Just curious if you’ve any anecdotes about behavior of nouveau generation. While not a parent myself I’ve heard many times from parent and youth peers that the new generations are entirely lacking IRL social skills, instead deferring their social lives entirely to their digital presence. As a result, basic conversational skills development is limited.

I'm shocked that older generations are complaining about younger generations! Shocked!

Re: Ex-FB exec: The dopamine-driven feedback loops are destroying how society works

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too grew up during the dawn of the Internet and "information age" in general. It was a wonderful time to be living, and an even better time to be a teenager -- we had such a leg up on the previous generation because we KNEW the 'net was going to be huge, and most of them thought of it as just another passing fad. I have fond memories of even pre-Internet, dialing into local BBS' on 28.8 baud modems -- which of cour…

But I can't bring myself to lump the current day 'social media' (ie; Twitter, Facebook, etc.) into the same category as IRC. There was no magician behind the curtain of IRC statistically evaluating every line of text before deciding whether or not showing it to you would or would not make you spend more time on IRC, and interjecting an ad every few lines. And you saw it in order too, there was no monkeying with that.…

Absolutely great point.
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