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Shanghai sets population at 25M

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Re: Shanghai sets population at 25M

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Wonder how they decide who the 25M will be... wouldn't such a policy artificially inflate the price of "living there" by jacked up real-estate prices? Now that the supply is stopped and the demand is not..

You can get a feel from these two articles depicting the expulsion of migrants from Beijing which also has a population limit.

Campaign to Drive Out Migrants Slams Beijing’s Best and Brightest(https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/world/asia/china-beijing-...)

Why Parts of Beijing Look Like a Devastated War Zone(https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/world/asia/china-beijing-...)

Re: Shanghai sets population at 25M

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China can take ambitious practical goals like that seriously. The West cannot, the West is problematically irresponsible.

In the West, we decided that individual liberty is more important than mass control. The Chinese government is corrupt to the core. Do you want that kind of government controlling you?

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China can take ambitious practical goals like that seriously. The West cannot, the West is problematically irresponsible.

No, the West can but we don't kid ourselves by thinking that the means to the end won't be inhumane and violent. Just like the 1 child policy. There's ways to accomplish things gracefully, and they tend not to be explicit .. they tend to be encouraging the alternatives, finding underlying causes, and promoting those. To cause subtle percolating change. China's way for change is reminiscent of when they killed all the insects and then caused starvation of millions. Brute force solutions are not the answer. And neither are brute-force black-line cutoffs. Initatives. Not cutoffs. Freedom with encouragement of positive behavior. Not forced behavior.

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China can take ambitious practical goals like that seriously. The West cannot, the West is problematically irresponsible.

In the West, we decided that individual liberty is more important than mass control. The Chinese government is corrupt to the core. Do you want that kind of government controlling you?

I certainly don't want my organs harvested because I smoked weed on my birthday.

Re: Shanghai sets population at 25M

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Wonder how they decide who the 25M will be... wouldn't such a policy artificially inflate the price of "living there" by jacked up real-estate prices? Now that the supply is stopped and the demand is not..

That's sort of what happens with Beijing car licenses so that sounds about right.
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