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Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by madeofpalk »

wz1000 wrote: post #28
synotna wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much money do those top 5 torrent trackers generate for the content creators? How much money do the "cartels" generate for the content creators? I believe the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people involved in the production of the thousands of TV shows and movies earned much more money from those "cartels" than those torrent trackers

The cartel is directly infringing on my freedom, with the use of the governments guns. Many hundreds of thousands(if not millions or billions) of people are under compensated for the work they do, work which is much more valuable. Make a list of every volunteer open source developer, 12 year old working in a Bangladeshi sweatshop and stay at home mom. If you want to blame anything, blame capitalism. Funny how the rea…

> We must use guns

Wait, we're still talking about Netflix's highly scalable architecture, right?

This shit sounds like its right out of n-gate.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

raverbashing wrote: post #29
wz1000 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I find it really hard to believe that paying for content is unethical. Your money isn't going to the people who created the content. It is going to cartels that have no interests in common with you, and have massive lobbying power in order to force you to download malware and restrict the access of information from you.

> Your money isn't going to the people who created the content Patently false and easily verifiable.

How about "isn't primarily going ...".

Media is an investment, which is why were getting lots of "low creativity" movies, re-boots, extended franchises, sequels, etc.. People will risk money for art, but investors don't want to risk anything: some franchises can basically churn out anything and be sure to make a huge profit (which Hollywood accountants can spin as a loss by charging millions for IPR).

I think the spirit of the former comment is "when a movie makes $$$ profit how much of that is going to the colourist, or the make-up artist, the IT support, the animation assistants, ... all people essential to the movie. Versus how much goes to investors whose only part is being already rich?".

The creators get wages, but how many of the creators get profits, and how often is it more than simple investors get?

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by wz1000 »

mindfulplay wrote: post #40
wz1000 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cartel is directly infringing on my freedom, with the use of the governments guns. Many hundreds of thousands(if not millions or billions) of people are under compensated for the work they do, work which is much more valuable. Make a list of every volunteer open source developer, 12 year old working in a Bangladeshi sweatshop and stay at home mom. If you want to blame anything, blame capitalism. Funny how the rea…

What. Are. You. Talking. About.

What happens when I violate IP laws? The police comes knocking on the door, even though I didn't deprive anyone of anything or harm anyone in any way. The only reason companies like Netflix are able to exist in the face of alternatives that are many times better in every single way(like torrents) is because of this underlying foundation of violence.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

I feel bit sorry for Netflix, for the lengths they have gone to get their high performance/reliable architecture but the clients are still at the mercy of the OS, browsers, CPU (decoding codecs) of-course assuming high speed Internet.

From their website - https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742

Resolution:

Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux. Up to 1080p on Chrome OS. Internet Explorer up to 1080p. Microsoft Edge up to 4K. Mozilla Firefox up to 720p. Opera up to 720p. Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later. Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Intel's 7th generation Core CPU, and the latest Windows updates.

P.S Interesting to note that Chrome OS plays 1080p, I assume because it has HW acceleration enabled by default (in browser alone, not in android apps though).

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by wz1000 »

madeofpalk wrote: post #41
wz1000 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cartel is directly infringing on my freedom, with the use of the governments guns. Many hundreds of thousands(if not millions or billions) of people are under compensated for the work they do, work which is much more valuable. Make a list of every volunteer open source developer, 12 year old working in a Bangladeshi sweatshop and stay at home mom. If you want to blame anything, blame capitalism. Funny how the rea…

> We must use guns Wait, we're still talking about Netflix's highly scalable architecture, right? This shit sounds like its right out of n-gate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay#History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case

The only reason Netflix exists in the face of superior alternatives is violence.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by jmiserez »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #44

I feel bit sorry for Netflix, for the lengths they have gone to get their high performance/reliable architecture but the clients are still at the mercy of the OS, browsers, CPU (decoding codecs) of-course assuming high speed Internet. From their website - https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 Resolution: Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux. Up to 1080p on Chrome OS. Internet Explorer up to 1080p. Mic…

Is it browser limitations, or just DRM limitations? Youtube seems to do 4K just fine.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by Terretta »

pavs wrote: post #6

Many of the things Netflix does here google does too and has been doing for a long time like GGC (Google Global Cache) for free at ISP NOC or datacenters - their GGC nodes are many orders of magnitude time is distribution. 90% of the Google traffic through these devices are youtube videos. They mention it in the article like Netflix pioneered this idea with open-connect. If anything it's harder to get OC devices from…

You react like Google pioneered these ideas.

Many of the things Netflix does here, Google does too... but VDNs did before YouTube was a twinkle in Chad, Steve, and Jawed’s eye.

The custom appliance proactive multi-tier video placement process outlined here, along with more techniques not mentioned (some of the most significant are only just now being rediscovered by non-CDNs such as Netflix or even AWS), were generally invented and deployed between 1998 and 2003 - 2005.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Post by nabeards »

Walf wrote: post #17

I know what it does when I don't press play: fills my memory with a boatload of bloated interface that has the shittiest navigation of any media player I've ever used. And I still can't just view a list of all series/movies by date.

Which media player has an interface you like? I'm usually an outcast for it, but I actually like the iTunes Movies interface myself.
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