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UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Post by Brotkrumen »

IanCal wrote: post #51
Brotkrumen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what their story is, but unlikely to be true. All "horrific" pictures will have to be graded by a human, because you have the right to face your accuser, the service providers will not let you near their codebase and AI won't be 100% accurate in the next few years. What they will be able to do with that software is trawl through orders of magnitudes more pictures, filter by probable hits and show those to staf…

Cases reported in the media usually talk about people having thousands of pictures each, I wasn't talking about thousands of different people.

Thats the point. None of the 90% normal pictures will do any psychological damage, the 10% illegal pictures will but those will have to be looked at anyway.

The advantage of an algo detecting illegal content isn't in protecting civil servants, it's scanning everyone without them.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Post by bionoid »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #63
bionoid wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a link that explains the situation well, which is why I am [slowly] working on a documentary project to bring it to the public. > calling porn a "cult" seems like a stretch That is the general perception, but as I said initially, girls are indoctrinated and trained using advanced psychological manipulation, indistinguishable from what most people think a "cult" is. Everyone is free to believe that massiv…

>Everyone is free to believe that massive numbers of young girls just absolutely love the taste of cum, rimming, and so on. Nothing fishy is going on... Or they could be, you know, acting .

> Or they could be, you know, acting.

Yes, precisely like Tom Cruise is just an actor. Let's forget about the scientology thing.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Post by sctb »

whathaschanged wrote: post #57
gaius wrote: post #45

The UK police are dealing with a scandal right now in that they tend to suppress electronic evidence proving a suspect is innocent and try to prosecute anyway. The last thing we should give them is another electronic capability. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/19/met-orders-review...

The UK police are dealing with a scandal where they supress evidence physical child rapists are guilty if they happen to be muslim.

Would you mind commenting civilly and substantively, please?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by tritium »

codefined wrote: post #59
lfowles wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the source: false, true, true, false, true, true, false, false, true, true, true, false, true, false (go left to right, top to bottom)

False & true aren't great terms to use for an "either or" question.

This translates to:

        (A)    (B)
  1. elbow,   ass; 
  2.   ass, elbow;
  3.   ass,   ass;
  4. elbow, elbow;
  5.   ass,   ass;
  6.   ass, elbow;
  7.   ass, elbow;

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Post by tomcam »

> Stokes told The Telegraph that the department is working with “Silicon Valley providers” to help train the AI to successfully scan for images of child abuse

AI requires large image sets to do the training. These images are illegal to possess. I wonder how such training gets done without violating the law. However, I do not wonder enough to do web searches about this matter. I am probably on enough government lists already

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Post by collyw »

jjp wrote: post #2

Gizmodo rewrote http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/18/artificial-... and didn't include some interesting details.

Was it Gizmodo that posted the doctored version of James Damores memo where all references were removed? Clearly not a reputable place to get information from.
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