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UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

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post #14

A bigger question is why does the police spend time looking for pornography? What type of society is the UK developing into?

So they can bully those who they don't like the disgraced bob quick's (senior counterterrorist cop who had to resign for security breaches) vendetta against a tory MP is one case.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#42
post #14

A bigger question is why does the police spend time looking for pornography? What type of society is the UK developing into?

So they can bully those who they don't like the disgraced bob quick's (senior counterterrorist cop who had to resign for security breaches) vendetta against a tory MP is one case.

The MP was part of a government who made a lot of moral comment about pornography. He accessed extreme pornography at work. Police needed to investigate because it was so extreme it might have been illegal.

He then lied about what the police had done.

That's not a vendetta, that's holding people to account.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#43
post #15

> With the help of Silicon Valley providers, AI could be trained to detect abusive images "within two-three years", Mr Stokes said. If the goal is to get something so high quality that the police won't ever have to look at it, I doubt it. You have Google and Facebook employing people to deal with user reports about this stuff, as well as ad companies manually checking websites.

There would be a significant benefit to just being able to reliably get rough numbers plus some examples of the worst pictures for an expert to grade rather than having the task of searching 10000 horrific pictures to see if any fall into certain categories.

That's what their story is, but unlikely to be true. All "horrific" pictures will have to be graded by a human, because you have the right to face your accuser, the service providers will not let you near their codebase and AI won't be 100% accurate in the next few years.

What they will be able to do with that software is trawl through orders of magnitudes more pictures, filter by probable hits and show those to staff. Right now someone has to be suspected to warrant the expensive attention of an expert. With that software you can fish in everyone's data.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#44
post #31
post #30

That headline. FFS. It's either child abuse or pornography. It can't be both.

Sure it can. One person's abuse can be another person's pornography. Disheartening but no less true.

> One person's abuse can be another person's pornography.

That is accurate for virtually all pornography. If you research how the "industry" works, you will quickly discover that it's built on advanced psychology, specifically hypnosis, torture, culture of fear and other brainwashing techniques.

The porn cult is every bit as vicious, evil and destructive to women as any cult you can name.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#45
The UK police are dealing with a scandal right now in that they tend to suppress electronic evidence proving a suspect is innocent and try to prosecute anyway. The last thing we should give them is another electronic capability.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/19/met-orders-review...

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#46
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they can bully those who they don't like the disgraced bob quick's (senior counterterrorist cop who had to resign for security breaches) vendetta against a tory MP is one case.

The MP was part of a government who made a lot of moral comment about pornography. He accessed extreme pornography at work. Police needed to investigate because it was so extreme it might have been illegal. He then lied about what the police had done. That's not a vendetta, that's holding people to account.

This post is factually inaccurate and defamatory.

The computer was searched as part of a separate investigation (into leaks) which found nothing.

The pornography was not extreme.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#47
post #10

Not unexpected. It's surprisingly difficult to tell your arse from your elbow: http://stupidstuff.org/ass_elbow/

But... I... I just want to know the answers. That reset quiz button... It’s... Why?

From the source: false, true, true, false, true, true, false, false, true, true, true, false, true, false (go left to right, top to bottom)

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#48
post #44
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it can. One person's abuse can be another person's pornography. Disheartening but no less true.

> One person's abuse can be another person's pornography. That is accurate for virtually all pornography. If you research how the "industry" works, you will quickly discover that it's built on advanced psychology, specifically hypnosis, torture, culture of fear and other brainwashing techniques. The porn cult is every bit as vicious, evil and destructive to women as any cult you can name.

I'm not familiar with the wider thesis you seem to be advocating, (could we get a link?) but calling porn a "cult" seems like a stretch, it's not something that has been created by a group and spread through brainwashing, porn is throughout history and across cultures.

Re: UK Cops Want to Use AI to Spot Child Abuse But It Mistakes Desert Pics for Nudes

#49
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MP was part of a government who made a lot of moral comment about pornography. He accessed extreme pornography at work. Police needed to investigate because it was so extreme it might have been illegal. He then lied about what the police had done. That's not a vendetta, that's holding people to account.

This post is factually inaccurate and defamatory. The computer was searched as part of a separate investigation (into leaks) which found nothing. The pornography was not extreme.

The pornography was extreme. It was found a few weeks before laws were introduced that made it unlawful. This claim has been made many times, in print, and Green has denied it but not used UK defamation law to prevent the claims being made or to force corrections to be printed.
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