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Re: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android

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Post by LoneCoder »

donaq wrote: post #50

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand this decision. Is Oracle in need of cash or something? Why did they become patent trolls? I mean, they're not even in the smart phone business, and it's not like Google is going to put a DBMS into Android. How are they being threatened in any way by Google?

Maybe there's a back room deal between oracle and someone else like Apple, Microsoft, Nokia, etc.

Re: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android

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Post by bmastenbrook »

nl wrote: post #43
kingkilr wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Interpreting functions utilizing a hybrid of virtual and native machine instructions Are they serious? Unless I'm missing something this is a fantastic joke, JITs far predate Java.

I'm guessing, but I suspect working around this & other patents was why a JIT took so long to ship in Android.

You can't write a good JIT overnight. You can't adapt an existing JIT for a JVM-like VM to Dalvik either. I don't think working around patents had much to do with it, especially since they got sued anyway.

Re: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android

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Post by jws »

rjurney wrote: post #71

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison are good friends, best man at your wedding kind of friends. Ellison was once on Apple's board of directors after Jobs returned to Apple. Oracle suing Google over Java patent infringements in Android sure plays well for Apple... Apple vs (Google vs (Facebook && Oracle))

… and if you rearrange the letters of "spicy acorn" it even spells "conspiracy"!.

Re: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android

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Post by bmastenbrook »

alec wrote: post #59
macemoneta wrote: post #18

As background, from WikiPedia: "On November 13, 2006, Sun released much of Java as open source software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL). On May 8, 2007, Sun finished the process, making all of Java's core code available under free software/open-source distribution terms, aside from a small portion of code to which Sun did not hold the copyright." If Sun willingly made the code GPL licensed, an…

Considering that Sun released Java before the GPL v3 was finished, I assume that it's under the GPL v2. v2 doesn't have the same patent guarantees that v3 does, and these guarantees were an important reason for creating v3. Specifically, the GPL v3 specifically prohibits this sort of "make it free software and then sue over the patents". The GPL FAQ claims that in some countries, releasing software under the GPL v2 c…

There's no need to assume when authoritative information is but a few keystrokes away. And yes, it is under the GPL v2 + Classpath exception, except for Java ME which is under straight GPL v2.

Re: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android

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