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Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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This is a sad article with unfortunate subjects. However I'm not convinced that the movement of people from apartments to vehicles is always a "sort of homelessness." I personally know people who are planning to move into a van to work remote, and there's definitely no shortage of blogs and instagrams from those people. Many of them are doing it to save money, but could live in a home if they chose to. The real issue…

Especially, the especially broken California housing market.

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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There is a linguistic problem here - extending the term 'middle class' to hide prevailing poverty in the US.

You are not middle class if:

- you will lose home, car if you are out of job for 6-10 months;

- you don't take 30 days vacation a year;

- you cannot afford health services without going to debt;

- you cannot send your kids to university;

- your diet is mostly junk food because you can't afford fresh stuff.

If some of the above is true, you are poor.

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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post #12

There is a linguistic problem here - extending the term 'middle class' to hide prevailing poverty in the US. You are not middle class if: - you will lose home, car if you are out of job for 6-10 months; - you don't take 30 days vacation a year; - you cannot afford health services without going to debt; - you cannot send your kids to university; - your diet is mostly junk food because you can't afford fresh stuff. If…

by your measure most people in the USA are poor

I would guess about 80%+

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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post #5
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: why are you having children in such a financially precarious situation when it’s only going to increase your living costs? EDIT: by “financially precarious” I mean that above you said you were a new grad having difficulty finding work. I assume it is your intent to work after the baby is born (rather than being the primary caregiver) or it wouldn’t matter so much about finding work. If your wife ret…

Not everyone "decides" to have kids. Sometimes it just happens.

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Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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post #12

There is a linguistic problem here - extending the term 'middle class' to hide prevailing poverty in the US. You are not middle class if: - you will lose home, car if you are out of job for 6-10 months; - you don't take 30 days vacation a year; - you cannot afford health services without going to debt; - you cannot send your kids to university; - your diet is mostly junk food because you can't afford fresh stuff. If…

Do you mean 30 days total vacation, or 30 days of elective pto in addition to company wide vacation days?

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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Keep doing what you’re doing central banks! Your policies of persistent inflation have robbed us of our ability to save our wealth and accurately plan for the future. You’ve decided that devaluing our wages 2% per year is in our best interest meaning we must perpetually fight with our employers to keep our wages we fought for the previous year. Your policies of QE have driven asset prices so high we have no hope of ever owning them without becoming a debt slave. Congratulations.

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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A good definition for middle class; is that you make a significant income from your capital investments. In that case it doesn't matter if you stop working for a few months; your stocks and shares still pay dividends and your tenants still pay you rent; your capital still keeps on working for you. A good clue is this: if your money all comes from working for someone else; and it all stops when you stop working; then you are working class. Like most people in the world.

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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post #12

There is a linguistic problem here - extending the term 'middle class' to hide prevailing poverty in the US. You are not middle class if: - you will lose home, car if you are out of job for 6-10 months; - you don't take 30 days vacation a year; - you cannot afford health services without going to debt; - you cannot send your kids to university; - your diet is mostly junk food because you can't afford fresh stuff. If…

by your measure most people in the USA are poor I would guess about 80%+

Which bullet points - if not all- would you exclude from the list to make it relevant ?

Re: Living in a parking lot in Santa Barbara

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

by your measure most people in the USA are poor I would guess about 80%+

Which bullet points - if not all- would you exclude from the list to make it relevant ?

The only one which is not a routine part of the middle class experience these days is eating strictly junk food because you can't afford anything better.

Every other part of that entire list is, sadly enough, "normal middle class" in the US.

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