At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment
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#2Related story from last month: https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-wo...
One of the interesting parts to come out of that (and from the OP) is VICE's "non-traditional workplace agreement":
> New hires at Vice also sign a “Non-Traditional Workplace Agreement,” an infamous internal document that requires employees with no experience at Vice to agree as a condition of employment to not be generally offended by anything that goes on there.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4203989-Non-Traditio...
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#3> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch.
I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.
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#4> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.
Best one I can come up with is: he's a creep.
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#5> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.
Me too. I've heard the "he grabbed my hand and to put it on his crotch in public" story before. Did people learn this from porn? Was it done in some John Cusack movie?
Apparently penis in popcorn is a thing and it's from a movie.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=wZs-WoqmLIKOjwO435PoCQ&q=pe...
Re: At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment
#6Related story from last month: https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-wo... One of the interesting parts to come out of that (and from the OP) is VICE's "non-traditional workplace agreement": > New hires at Vice also sign a “Non-Traditional Workplace Agreement,” an infamous internal document that requires employees with no experience at Vice to agree as a condition of employment to not be generally…
> to not be generally offended by anything that goes on there.
Is it a one way or two way street at Vice - ie. are you allowed to "offend" in your turn too?
Re: At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment
#7Related story from last month: https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-wo... One of the interesting parts to come out of that (and from the OP) is VICE's "non-traditional workplace agreement": > New hires at Vice also sign a “Non-Traditional Workplace Agreement,” an infamous internal document that requires employees with no experience at Vice to agree as a condition of employment to not be generally…
I've signed something similar at other companies. Talking about sex work at a regular company is inappropriate. But discussing an article your co worker wrote about sex workers is okay because it's your job to cover vices.
The agreement protects Vice from being sued for the second scenario, but not the first. Though I've encountered employees who interpret it as "anything goes."
People who work on search engines, build family friendly filters, or categorize apps and movies have to deal with porn. But that doesn't mean employees are allowed to watch porn. One story I heard about Bing is that they go to a covered conference room whenever they need to view adult material. A good idea to not expose porn to bystanders.
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#8I'd heard rumors about this at Vice. Glad to see it getting some air.
Stories like this are important, because I think the traditional view of sexual harassment is that it happens at JP Morgan, or Exxon, or "stodgy" old companies.
People don't think that it can happen at their cool, hip workplace where everyone's woke. But, power is power.
Incidentally, and totally based off of a gut reaction and not data: I wonder if this is the death knell of "company outings." More and more it feels like people are content to let work be work, and avoiding things like holiday parties and after-work gatherings.
I wonder if it's partially because of situations like this: You might be inappropriately propositioned. Or, you might have too much to drink and make an inappropriate advance - I don't even mean anything grossly egregious here necessarily, but a superior making an advance on their subordinate is pretty inappropriate even if the advance itself is tame.
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#9> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.
The fact that this happened isn't surprising. There are always creeps in the world, and unless we all live in bubbles that separate men from women, there always will be. What matters more is what happened afterwards. Did the woman report it to HR? Was there a response? Was he fired?
Without context, these stories are useless.
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#10> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.
That incident happened after a company event, isn't that considered private time? I mean, she would have had to agree to go with the co-worker, during their off-hours, in the first place and he might have interpreted her willingness to go along as a signal of mutual interest (romantic, sexual) in each other?
That isn't meant as an excuse for such creepy, if not straight up criminal, behavior. But as somebody with some social issues of his own, I can relate quite a bit with not being able to properly interpret social and body cues.
To me, the vast majority of people are walking blackboxes where I have no clue how they would react to most actions of my own. Which boils down to me acting rather passively in most social situations out of fear I might break some unspoken rule, misinterpret the current mood in the room/between people.