I believe the man is essentially saying that past performance does not indicate future performance. Ironically, most of the comments here are saying he is wrong, because of his past performance. Can we instead talk about his specific points and why they are wrong instead of just focusing on his past performance? Also, it looks to me that his performance was good during the great recession. So if another recession is…
Seeing as the market always recovers and then some, you are going to need to make very, very good returns in the downturns to make up for all the list potential on the upside. In other words, the overall return of the markets over their entire lifetime is positive, not negative. It would be great to ride the bull and then switch to the bear in a down market. But that would require timing the market.
Three Delusions: Paper Wealth, a Booming Economy, and Bitcoin
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A particular stream of payments with a particular risk profile is an asset that has different (present) value to different entities like any other.
I may not be using the proper terminology here, but would I be correct in restating this as: The underlying value of the asset is just one component, but the vehicle the asset is traded through can change that value equation by adding or removing its own value.
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The common theme is that the majority of people were not starving. That's how revolutions are fueled. None of the countries you listed were facing actual famines.
So, for the rich to keep (and make) their wealth, they just need to ensure that the serfs/plebs don't starve. Low bar for success!
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Since Inception (07/24/00): 0.54% It truly is amazing. You'd have to really try to do that bad.
It seems to me whether that is good depends on what you conceive of as counterfactuals. If you truly believe that the investments would have made you a zillion dollars in a worst case scenario for the economy, then the fact that they've made almost nothing when the market has gone up & up & up doesn't seem that bad.
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It seems to me whether that is good depends on what you conceive of as counterfactuals. If you truly believe that the investments would have made you a zillion dollars in a worst case scenario for the economy, then the fact that they've made almost nothing when the market has gone up & up & up doesn't seem that bad.
This fund's performance is objectively bad because there are alternatives with less risk that provide much better returns for much lower fees. Also, since the markets, long term, generally go up, investing in something that expects the opposite is foolish.
What was the risk of Trump winning the election? Some people think that after it happened, the odds are retroactively 100%. I think that the odds were probably about 30%, since that's what polling implied on the eve of the election. But then one may argue that we know things we didn't know then, that it might have been rigged and therefore the probability was higher than 30%.
If you imagine repeating anything 1000 times, to find out the odds of an outcome, you have to decide what you are holding the same and what you are not. If you hold nothing the same, it makes no sense to compare. If you hold everything the same, you trivially expect the exact same outcome.
I think the fact that you can spin different stories about what risks were actually taken is why investing, and life in general, is hard to optimize.
Your probabilities for anything after an event depend on your probabilities assumed prior.
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Companies issue shares. These shares are listed as a liability on the company's balance sheet. Each share represents a liability to the company because it entitle its holder to a share of any dividends paid by the company. The intrinsic value of a share is the net present value of this future stream of dividend payments, not its current market price. OP's point is that the market price of a share can be significantly…
The present value of future dividends is highly dependent on the terminal state of the company, and the future of the economy. So I don't find wild fluctuations in stock prices to be proof that the market is inefficient or over/undervalued because the far future is very uncertain. Every stock chart is an invitation to assume false precision, because unlike a scientific measurement there is no explicit +/- range. But…
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Difficulty can't actually correspond to the number of leading zeros required in the hash, can it? Then there would only be 256 levels of difficulty, and the average block time would have to double whenever difficulty increases. Yet I see this "leading zeros" explanation everywhere. So maybe it is the case, but if so, why was this way chosen rather than just requiring that the hash be less than some value, with that v…
The "number of leading 0's" is just a gross oversimplification of the actual difficulty mechanism. It's a lot easier to explain, and it's somewhat correct (it's easy to look at the hash for a block and see that it has a bunch of zeros at the front) The reality is closer to what you say at the end there, it is calculated so that the resulting hash must be under a given value, and is pretty damn granular. Sadly many pe…
Aha! I knew there was a reason people prefer the leading zeros explanation. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Coinbase sent me an email saying that they cannot guarantee uptime during high volatility. The exits are locked.
Oh please, people have had months and months to cash out nearly any time they please.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/22/16810614/coinbase-tradin...
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#159I look beyond the “there’s a crash coming” sentiment. In that opinion, he is like all other pundits yammering on CNBC: entertaining rather than enlightening. What I like about his article is the insight — new to me — about the nature of paper wealth vs real wealth. He described it in a way that is useful and enlightening to me. The assertion that a security (stock, bond) is not an addition to net wealth — just a zero…
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I may not be using the proper terminology here, but would I be correct in restating this as: The underlying value of the asset is just one component, but the vehicle the asset is traded through can change that value equation by adding or removing its own value.
No, I don't think that's correct. A security doesn't have its own value independently of the payment stream it represents, any more than the deed to a house has its own value independently of the house. But the same payment stream (or house) might be of different value to different people, so buying or selling it can create wealth.