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Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

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Looks like they had to delete support for Smarthings integration as a condition for the deal going through: https://community.smartthings.com/t/blink-support-discontinu...

This is such BS. "If you own one of our systems, nothing changes for now." They've completely disabled the RBoy integration that allows SmartThings access to work for Blink Cameras, it's already been done. There's a huge uproar over at the SmartThings forum about it.

Glad you're making that sweet acquisition cash Blink founders but you really screwed over your users.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#82
post #75

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Wiring your house for video is not crazy at all. Wiring it for video where you have to rely on the security of cloud provider (especially a free one) is what's crazy.

Absolutely! Wiring your house for video is awesome, for a huge array of potential reasons. I bought a cloud-connected Nest camera to use as a baby monitor. Quickly realized how awesome it would be to have cameras in (almost) all rooms in my house, so I threw the Nest in the trash (terrible product) and got a few Amcrest cameras and hooked them up to a good, well-maintained Mac IP camera app called SecuritySpy[1]. It'…

> I threw the Nest in the trash

I know this is an expression, but the idea of throwing out a $250 wireless camera seems excessive. Of course, adding a camera to every room in a house seems excessive too. I'm curious why you felt you needed cameras in every room? What's the "awesome" part?

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#83
post #67

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Amazon has already been using machine learning to separate fresh vs. moldy strawberries; I'm sure AI will be able to identify the freshest cookies better than humans in the near future.

If you're talking about ordering online they won't give you the most fresh items. They'll give you the ones which are still sell-able as fresh ie. almost moldy. Once those are gone, they'll give you the next one in line, but not the most fresh as you might pick yourself if you were in a physical store. Because those will still be sell-able tomorrow or the day after, but these which are almost bad aren't. What this me…

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Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#84
post #77

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Is there a good watering hole for self-hosted home assistant development? I was at a Micro Center this evening and saw a AIY Google Voice Kit (not sure if it phones home) and a Matrix Creator (very interesting) plus a lot of other doodads that one could use to build same. I just don't want to spend a year trying to cobble together my own software.

How to use home assistant: 1. buy any compatible smart thing listed as compatible on the home assistant website 2. Buy a raspberry pi and any necessary RF adapters. 3. Install home assistant on the raspberry pi and edit the config.yaml file to work with your devices. It was much easier than I expected, and works with more DIY things as well (like 315/433Mhz RF Sockets).

Very cool, thank you. I had no idea there was a project named that.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#85
post #2

This transaction was too expensive for Ooma so they picked up Butterfleye a few days ago instead.

Hard to attribute Ooma's choice to go with Butterfleye as solely due to price, I think a number of factors could have contributed to the decision to choose one over the other.

If Amazon started courting Blink first, they'd have added a provision to make it expensive for Blink to walk away if they get propositioned by another company. This is Amazon's tactic whenever they court smaller companies like when Diapers.com got a counteroffer from Walmart after Amazon started negotiations [0]. Diapers.com eventually sold to Amazon.

Then there's the aspect of product complexity -- Butterfleye offers a slightly more complex product (learning camera to reduce false alarms, higher quality recording, longer recording times even 24/7, encrypted uploads, on-device storage options, rechargeable batteries & wired power, complementary installation, SMB focus etc) than Blink which is why they are in different price segments ($199 vs $99 per camera unit).

[0] http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/10/10/amazon_bo...

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#86
post #79

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Amazon has already been using machine learning to separate fresh vs. moldy strawberries; I'm sure AI will be able to identify the freshest cookies better than humans in the near future.

I’m having difficulty finding any reference online to them using machine learning to sort fruit. It also seems odd they would given they are a distributor/retailer and not a grower/wholesaler. Got a link to share?

I haven't heard this before but it makes a lot of sense to me. If you're requesting fresh food to be delivered, you want it to show up fresh.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#87
post #75

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Absolutely! Wiring your house for video is awesome, for a huge array of potential reasons. I bought a cloud-connected Nest camera to use as a baby monitor. Quickly realized how awesome it would be to have cameras in (almost) all rooms in my house, so I threw the Nest in the trash (terrible product) and got a few Amcrest cameras and hooked them up to a good, well-maintained Mac IP camera app called SecuritySpy[1]. It'…

> how awesome it would be to have cameras in (almost) all rooms in my house Why?

My original use-case for my cameras was to see what my cats are up to when I'm not home. I've since found many other uses for these cameras:

- Monitoring how much food and which food each cat consumes.

- Seeing who's at the front door when the doorbell rings.

- Peace of mind when I'm on vacation.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#88
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely! Wiring your house for video is awesome, for a huge array of potential reasons. I bought a cloud-connected Nest camera to use as a baby monitor. Quickly realized how awesome it would be to have cameras in (almost) all rooms in my house, so I threw the Nest in the trash (terrible product) and got a few Amcrest cameras and hooked them up to a good, well-maintained Mac IP camera app called SecuritySpy[1]. It'…

> I threw the Nest in the trash I know this is an expression, but the idea of throwing out a $250 wireless camera seems excessive. Of course, adding a camera to every room in a house seems excessive too. I'm curious why you felt you needed cameras in every room? What's the "awesome" part?

Yeah, more precisely, I threw the Nest camera in the "junk box containing items I might end up trying to sell on e.g. craigslist if I ever find the time, which I probably actually won't, so the best outcome would likely be that one day somebody visiting would want the item and it could give it to them, or else it ends up in the literal trash some future day"...

But the Nest camera really is a terrible, awful product for many reasons (fundamentally flawed cloud-required design, additional horrid latency caused by software bugs, awful and dreadful user interface, etc). I hesitate to even give it to anybody.

However, trying it did make us realize we did want not just one camera, but a bunch. The cameras can send audio both directions, so they function as intercoms. Any computer, phone, tablet or TV that we have in the house can be used to check what's going on in another part of the house, and optionally talk to the people there.

Now when we have kids parties, we no longer have to send one adult upstairs with the kids to make sure they keep the nerf gun and plastic sword battles safe (for the kids, and for the house)--we can just relax in the living room and put the upstairs rooms on the TV.

Likewise, we can set the baby down in any room, and keep tabs on him while cooking or working or whatever.

The citizens of my little surveillance state also like the cameras -- the kids are used to them and use them ("mom! I want some water!") and my wife and I use them to keep tabs on each other, too. Am I at home? Oh yeah, there I am at my desk. So she never sends me messages like "Hey are you home? Is the baby awake?" any more.

The cameras also, of course, function as regular security cameras; capturing any action that occurs while we aren't there and storing the video remotely.

This was all fantastically easy to set up in 2017, too (compared to the security camera systems I set up at my businesses in decades past). The big issue is, of course, security in the other direction. But as long as you put the cameras themselves on a separate (preferably wired) network, and don't let them connect to the Internet (don't trust camera firmware!), it seems like it can be done reasonably securely.

I mean I might get hacked, sure. Maybe a zero-day comes out for my camera control software that exposes the video feeds over HTTPS, and an attacker can see inside my house and spy on me. That's not a good outcome, and I prefer to avoid that. But the cloud cameras from Nest, or Blink, etc. essentially come pre-hacked to share your video feeds with the large corporations that own them.

That's the part that seems crazy to me.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#89
post #8

Looks like they had to delete support for Smarthings integration as a condition for the deal going through: https://community.smartthings.com/t/blink-support-discontinu...

Amazon is horrible about things like this. They purchased Twitch and then removed the Twitch app from the Roku. They are very anti competitive.

Re: Blink has been acquired by Amazon

#90
post #8

Looks like they had to delete support for Smarthings integration as a condition for the deal going through: https://community.smartthings.com/t/blink-support-discontinu...

Amazon is horrible about things like this. They purchased Twitch and then removed the Twitch app from the Roku. They are very anti competitive.

That was over 3 years after they purchased Twitch. Brightscript and the Roku SDK aren't easy to work with.
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