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Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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It might be different now, but I'm pretty sure back in the Bob Barker era contestant selection wasn't random. The entire audience had to introduce themselves to the producer one by one and answer his questions about where they were from, what they did, and if they were there with anyone. The people selected were fairly attractive and charismatic. The selection also leaned toward people who came with larger groups. I…

Yep, it's still like that now, too! I was on The Price is Right a few months ago, and I got called to "come on down" to be a contestant.

Before the show, producer Stan Blits greets every member of the audience while they're waiting in line. He chats with each audience member (for about 20 seconds) to gauge their liveliness & enthusiasm. As he's chatting with each person, he gives a subtle hand signal to an intern who is standing behind him with a notepad. For each audience member who he thinks might make a good contestant, the intern writes down the person's name on the notepad.

After the audience is seated, he continues to refine the list by standing on the side of the stage and observing the potential contestants in their seats. He checks to see which ones are still energetic and cheering while they're sitting in the audience too.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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That link is not to the Price is Right TV show. The "Price is Right" brand has a traveling live theater production as well called Price is Right Live. Tickets to that cost money. Tickets for the real TV show in Los Angeles are free. Thanks for playing.

This seems like an excessive level of condescension for a lack of familiarity with the Price is Right expanded universe.

What, "thanks for playing"? It's a sparkling bright opportunity for that joke, not a put-down.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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post #4

It might be different now, but I'm pretty sure back in the Bob Barker era contestant selection wasn't random. The entire audience had to introduce themselves to the producer one by one and answer his questions about where they were from, what they did, and if they were there with anyone. The people selected were fairly attractive and charismatic. The selection also leaned toward people who came with larger groups. I…

Yep, it's still like that now, too! I was on The Price is Right a few months ago, and I got called to "come on down" to be a contestant. Before the show, producer Stan Blits greets every member of the audience while they're waiting in line. He chats with each audience member (for about 20 seconds) to gauge their liveliness & enthusiasm. As he's chatting with each person, he gives a subtle hand signal to an intern who…

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Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that has nothing to do with: >buzzing in when he didn't know the answers to prevent other contestants from winning money

I think it does. He chose daily-doubles when I didn't know the answer and bet low. It denies the others the D-D and means he didn't lose much. This is explained in detail later on. It's not the most felicitous of phrasing but it makes sense to me.

The wording is confusing at best, flat out incorrect at worst if that’s what they meant there.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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I've no idea what's going on on this page, but my iPhone got really hot and Firefox (on my desktop) warned me that the page was running slow. The profiler on Chrome hung when trying to profile the page and I had to kill the tab in task manager.

Sites like that is why I JS whitelist sites on mobile and blacklist on desktop. I'm glad that most sites still work well because the day I'm forced to spin up my fan to read a news article is the day I'll have to reconsider using the web.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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Here's a little psychological trick I always wanted to try, if I ever got to the showcase showdown on TPIR. Suppose the other contestant passes the first showcase to me, and I believe it is the lower valued of the two showcases. I bid one dollar. If the other contestant is not paying attention, they just might bid two dollars on their showcase. That strategy works on contestant's row when everyone is bidding on the s…

How likely is someone to do the $2, though? My guess is they would be really confused by the $1 bid then just bid as they would normally.

It's risky, sure. You would have to have a good read on the other contestant, like maybe someone who bid $1001 to get out of contestant's row, so you know they are inclined to use the plus-one-dollar strategy. I probably wouldn't have the guts to try it myself, but if someone did and pulled it off it would be legendary.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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My show that I've "solved" is cutthroat kitchen. In this show, you don't need to be the best cook until the final round. Before that the object is to "not lose".

The solution - buy the sabotages. Give the sabotages to the cook with the most money. Taking everything personal and retaliating hurts your chances of winning because it increases your chance of losing the round -- and if your retaliee loses, the remaining contestants have way more money than you. Caring about how much money is in your hand also hurts your chances of winning because you become less likely to buy the sabotage.

Bidding strategy is also interesting.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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Also of interest, the less 'predictable' nature of the show made me completely loose interest in it when they modified the format.

I felt like the old format rewarded the contestants for studying and knowing the answers, even if unintentionally by just buying stuff in their life. The luck element was more about where / when you got selected and how well other contestants used their advantages.

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that has nothing to do with: >buzzing in when he didn't know the answers to prevent other contestants from winning money

I think it does. He chose daily-doubles when I didn't know the answer and bet low. It denies the others the D-D and means he didn't lose much. This is explained in detail later on. It's not the most felicitous of phrasing but it makes sense to me.

Are the Daily Doubles not randomly-placed? How do you "hunt" them?

Re: Victory on “The Price Is Right” Made Them Change Their System

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This reminds me of a great thought piece that I studied a lot during my gaming years: Playing to Win. http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win Particularly relevant to the Jeopardy contestant that buzzed in when he didn't know the answers to block others from getting the cash.

I'm reminded of the first season of Survivor. I didn't watch, but followed along on (IIRC) a Diplomacy discussion forum of all places; it seemed clear that Richard was playing an extremely strategic game, even deliberately sandbagging an endurance contest when it was down to 3 players, knowing that the woman who won it would have to eliminate the other, much more popular male contestant to have a chance to win the vo…

After having gotten my ass kicked (figuratively) a few times in real life business situations where I was too smug for my own good and thought I could get an advantage using my (limited) knowledge of game theory, and watching discussions of shows like Survivor and how people play 'strategically', I've wondered - are there any resources on real life applications of game theory? Things like war gaming (the real military kind, not c&c) sort of go there sometimes but I'm not a general so military applications are of limited use to me. Anyone know of business oriented literature for those of us to whom street smarts doesn't come natural?
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