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Apple’s New iPhones Get a Lukewarm Reception from Buyers

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Re: Apple’s New iPhones Get a Lukewarm Reception from Buyers

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I'll buy a $3000 MacBook Pro if you bring back USB ports, an SD slot, an HDMI port, a user replaceable battery. And the escape key. But no, why don't you just leave this money on the table instead and I'll make do with the 2013 model. You go on ahead, Apple, wondering how to ignite more revenue growth.

I'm still powering through with a mid-2009 Core2Duo. I've wanted to upgrade for a while now, but just don't feel an unassailable 'oomph' to do it.

Lots of folks say the 2015 rMBP is the gold standard best laptop Apple has ever put out, and I can't disagree.

I'd drop some serious cash in a heartbeat for a brand new model that touches on those notes, but the new MBPs just are not even close to where they should be.

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#32

I'll buy a $3000 MacBook Pro if you bring back USB ports, an SD slot, an HDMI port, a user replaceable battery. And the escape key. But no, why don't you just leave this money on the table instead and I'll make do with the 2013 model. You go on ahead, Apple, wondering how to ignite more revenue growth.

It's possible that Apple has analyzed the market and done some research and concluded that what you want would not generate enough profit vs. their current offerings. Your money that they left on the table is most likely dwarfed by the new found money they are getting. At least, if their research is correct.

They can't make a spectrum of products that appeal to a variety of users? Ah, I forgot they are strapped for cash.

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#33

The smaller screen width was a deal breaker for be. I'll wait for the next iteration which purportedly will have a larger screen.

I was worried about that coming from a plus, but it's really very close.

Or just wait until next year, when they'll (probably) have an X Plus. Which will feel like a frickin' iPad.

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#34

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

I hate the freaking Face ID... With my iPhone 7 unlocking was second nature. Almost never had to enter the pin. With the iPhone X I found my self, entering the pin at least 50% of the times. Usually when I'm in bed and this thing can't get a good shot of my face (because my face is smooshed into my pillow) or when I'm at work and I have the phone flat on my desk. They can try to defend Face ID as much as they want but it's a total UX nightmare.

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#35
I bought an iPhone X and it's my favorite iPhone I've ever owned. I've fallen (back) in love with the iPhone and can't quite explain why.

A big part of it, to be honest, was my dislike of my past few phones. The 6 felt like the PERFECT form factor and was a good step up from my 5S, but it unfortunately suffered from the battery issues Apple claimed "only" affected the 6S. Once the 7 came out I realized my 6 was 2.5 years old and was seriously showing the performance impact of an aging phone (typically I stick to a 2 year cycle). I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on a 7 which I felt was no real upgrade; the better camera on the 7+ was the only thing to get me to "jump". Everyone I know who owns large Android or Apple phones swears you'll love the big screen and never want to go back.

I gotta say, I never liked the 7+. I kept expecting I'd get used to it and warm to it, but I never did. It was too big to operate with one hand, I always had to adjust it in my pocket to put my leg up to tie my shoes or get in the car or whatever, and the added screen size did nothing for me. Every time I picked up my wife's 7 I thought "this is more like it".

So I bought the X because I didn't want to pay MORE money and "downgrade" to the single lens camera on the 8; I felt like it was going to be let down. The X was a bit of a gamble. I was sure I'd miss the home button and touchID; I regularly used it to unlock my phone while lying flat on my desk and wouldn't want to pick it up to face me, but thought why not get a big screen in a small form factor?

The switch to the X was seamless. I have to say, within 5 minutes I had forgotten all about the home button, in stark contrast to all of the tech journos who said it took "weeks" to get used to. I'm in my late 30s so I'm well into my "I feel like a luddite" years, and it takes me seemingly forever to adapt to new technology, but the lack of a home button was a serious step up. Every gesture on the X feels totally natural and it all makes sense again.

The form factor of the X is amazing, it's perfect for me and what I want. The screen is brilliant, everything is just amazing. It's not enough to tell someone to switch from Android or from an iPhone they already like, but for the first time in years it feels like a serious step up in every way for Apple.

Another nice thing is, as someone who doesn't really like to stand out, in a black case (I use a QuadLock to attach to my bike handlebars), it looks like absolutely nothing. It's totally featureless on the front and it's a small-ish phone so it doesn't look flashy or draw attention to you.

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#36

I'm on a 7, and it's nearly no improvement over my 6 (The only feature noticable is the better water sealing). Not looking to upgrade any time soon. And unlike previous generations my last phone is still so good that after a battery change it will be a parent/sibling phone for 2 more years without problem. That means that they are less likely to get a new one too. They can drop their iPhone4S and take my iPhone6, ins…

> There is a point when perf and features give diminishing returns and we are there. Good!

I don't understand how someone on hackernews can be excited about the stagnation of innovation... lol

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#37

I'll buy a $3000 MacBook Pro if you bring back USB ports, an SD slot, an HDMI port, a user replaceable battery. And the escape key. But no, why don't you just leave this money on the table instead and I'll make do with the 2013 model. You go on ahead, Apple, wondering how to ignite more revenue growth.

Apple has a long history of deprecating ports and peripherals ahead of the rest of the industry, potentially prematurely. Nobody should be shocked by this anymore, it's part and parcel of being a customer of theirs.

However, looking back, they have a pretty good track record regarding what they remove. Keyboards and mice didn't really need separate ports, floppy drives weren't all that great, and optical drives ended up gathering dust in a nice battery-shaped hole.

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#38

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

This couldn’t be farther from the truth!

Happy iPhoneX user here.

FaceID is a complete game changer IMO...a paradigm shift!

Not just for unlocking the phone but the fact all of my apps (banking, etc) also support it makes authentication be a problem of the past...all friction gone!

It’s amazing and can probably only be expierenced in person...which might be why sales have been weak.

Re: Apple’s New iPhones Get a Lukewarm Reception from Buyers

#39

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

Absolutely cannot disagree more. It brings more real estate in a smaller package, it looks better, and it works better. The gestures are far better than the home button, and I adapted almost immediately (seriously, within 5 minutes). It feels far more natural now than the button ever did, and when I look at an older model it looks dated as hell. This feels like the statement of someone looking for something to complain about rather than an actual user experience.

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post #29

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

As the very happy owner of an iPhone X, I couldn't disagree more. The (nearly) full screen display is fantastic. The notch and rounded edges don't bother me at all; it gives the phone screen an organic shape, previously only seen in sci-fi movies. FaceID is fantastic; it's super reliable and incrdibly seemless. Touch ID was far worse. Swipe motions instead of the home bar works great. I've never been happier with a p…

Counter point: I haven't thought about Touch ID since picking up the 7 (my first iPhone). Screen is good. Camera is good. I don't use gestures. I have an extra $1000 in my bank account from not buying the X.
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