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Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by macrael » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:26 AM UTC

nulagrithom wrote: post #6

> I don't like excessively long lines of code (120+ in most languages) Quick straw poll on this... How many people like a line length limit? My personal preference is a fairly strict 80 (barring silly things like URLs), but I've always been met with resistance to ANY line length limit. Is it really that imposing?

I think line limits are a good idea, though I sort of do them by feel usually. That said, 80 feels incredibly restrictive, a relic of bygone monitor sizes.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by Jeaye » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:26 AM UTC

For anyone wanting to peruse another large vim setup (mostly C++ and Clojure): https://github.com/jeaye/vimrc

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by neuland » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:31 AM UTC

nulagrithom wrote: post #6

> I don't like excessively long lines of code (120+ in most languages) Quick straw poll on this... How many people like a line length limit? My personal preference is a fairly strict 80 (barring silly things like URLs), but I've always been met with resistance to ANY line length limit. Is it really that imposing?

I also will strictly use 80 character lines. I like that because it means I can have two vertical panes of code open at the same time even on my 12-inch MacBook (regular/not pro), which I love b/c of it's battery life and weight.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by joeskyyy » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:35 AM UTC

baby_wipe wrote: post #7

I’m probably the minority here but I don’t like to customize my Vim too much. 1 - it takes time. 2 - half the reason I like Vim is because I can use it anywhere. If I’m so used to a highly customized setup, then I am going to feel out of place when I log on somewhere else.

Right there with you. While the power of vim is to be able to customize it, I hate getting used to something and then not being able to use it everywhere. I've managed to get by with no extra .vimrc things whatsoever for quite some time :D Does it take me longer to do some things compared to using what's in this article? Yup. Does it prevent me from doing good, and still relatively quick, work? Nope.

When I want the power of formatting and and all the goods, I use visual editors with no shame or remorse (VS Code is my current poison of choice).

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by jitl » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:42 AM UTC

baby_wipe wrote: post #7

I’m probably the minority here but I don’t like to customize my Vim too much. 1 - it takes time. 2 - half the reason I like Vim is because I can use it anywhere. If I’m so used to a highly customized setup, then I am going to feel out of place when I log on somewhere else.

It depends what you use Vim for. If Vim is your only code editor, it’s crazy that you’d leave tons of productivity enhancements on the table because you want that standardized, bottom-of-the-barrel experience. Nice things are nice!

I have tons of customizations in my Vim, and have very little trouble using vi or vanilla Vim when I log into production machines. It is frustrating to not have my magic this and that, but no less frustrating than it would be going from IntelliJ on my own box to Vim on someone else’s.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by keithnz » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:46 AM UTC

nulagrithom wrote: post #6

> I don't like excessively long lines of code (120+ in most languages) Quick straw poll on this... How many people like a line length limit? My personal preference is a fairly strict 80 (barring silly things like URLs), but I've always been met with resistance to ANY line length limit. Is it really that imposing?

I really don't care most of the time, mostly because I don't get long lines, and when I do ( like sometimes in tests I have a string that has some test data in it that's quite long ) I'm all good with it being long rather than wrapping.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by myko » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:50 AM UTC

nulagrithom wrote: post #6

> I don't like excessively long lines of code (120+ in most languages) Quick straw poll on this... How many people like a line length limit? My personal preference is a fairly strict 80 (barring silly things like URLs), but I've always been met with resistance to ANY line length limit. Is it really that imposing?

After years of Objective-C I don't blink unless a line is over 140 characters.

Some things just look better that way.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by keithnz » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:52 AM UTC

I use vim bindings in visual studio and do a lot of custom binding to resharper functionality. It's quite magic, the only thing I really miss from Vim is easy motion and the vim emulation is not complete so for some editing tasks I have to open a file in Vim.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by flukus » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 1:55 AM UTC

baby_wipe wrote: post #7

I’m probably the minority here but I don’t like to customize my Vim too much. 1 - it takes time. 2 - half the reason I like Vim is because I can use it anywhere. If I’m so used to a highly customized setup, then I am going to feel out of place when I log on somewhere else.

I was a heavy customizer and used it with all sorts of plugins, but maintaining it across computers with little incompatibilities between OS's and version just got to be too much. I finally came around to the tmux side and now use vim as the editor and unix as the IDE. Going to give kakoune another shot in the new year as well.

Re: Intermediate Vim tips

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Post by lillesvin » Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 2:01 AM UTC

Whenever a Vim post mentions grep, ack or ag — especially in conjunction with fzf/fzy — I'll make sure to mention the even faster rg (ripgrep): https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep BurntSushi's write-up about the internal workings of ripgrep is also super interesting: http://blog.burntsushi.net/ripgrep/)

It's a really amazing piece of software. It has also recently been included in Visual Studio Code to search in files.