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The tweet was well written.
And brew, well, yah, well written.
Thanks Max for making the missing package manager for macOS. I use it, I taught my kids to use it and will probably keep using it for the next decade. Thanks!
And Google?
Who cares about google. It is Apple that should have hired Max. Years ago. For making their product better.
But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that. No, Google shouldn't have hired him, and he made it very clear why: he's a dick. Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1…
If dickishness was a crime then most of our software engineers would be in jail.
Second, I empathize with Max Howell's lack of formal CS education. I studied electrical engineering and a bit of software engineering. I attended a top 10 engineering university in the USA, but learning stuff like the nitty gritty of sorting is not part of the EE curriculum.
But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that. No, Google shouldn't have hired him, and he made it very clear why: he's a dick. Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1…
But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that. No, Google shouldn't have hired him, and he made it very clear why: he's a dick. Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1…
I don't know Howell, but that reads more as light self-deprecation than an admission of genuine toxicity.
But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that. No, Google shouldn't have hired him, and he made it very clear why: he's a dick. Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1…
At least in my experience, the real dicks you want to avoid would never casually call themselves dicks. I don't know Howell, but that reads more as light self-deprecation than an admission of genuine toxicity.
To read the responses to Max's post, Quora wants me to sign on with Google. And then, when I sign on with Google, "Quora wants to manage your contacts". Fuck that, Quora.
This is well written. The tweet was well written. And brew, well, yah, well written. Thanks Max for making the missing package manager for macOS. I use it, I taught my kids to use it and will probably keep using it for the next decade. Thanks! And Google? Who cares about google. It is Apple that should have hired Max. Years ago. For making their product better.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
If dickishness was a crime then most of our software engineers would be in jail.
In the aftermath of the Damore affair, one thing that came to light was that Google managers operate private blacklists, which they attempt to spread beyond Google to make people unemployable, and that they are so unafraid of HR that they openly brag about it. It sounds like some pretty toxic behaviours are tolerated there, among management if not among the engineers...
This is well written. The tweet was well written. And brew, well, yah, well written. Thanks Max for making the missing package manager for macOS. I use it, I taught my kids to use it and will probably keep using it for the next decade. Thanks! And Google? Who cares about google. It is Apple that should have hired Max. Years ago. For making their product better.
They did https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10675921