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Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by orthecreedence »

jMyles wrote: post #106
mancerayder wrote: post #90

I don't mind being taxed at all. What I find stressful is calculating - not just the 'what was the USD price at the time of the exchange' that has to be manually entered and looked up into the exported CSV spreadsheet... BUT tying that to the movement of coin from Coinbase to the exchange. It's a pain. I regret using Bittrex, as there's almost no tooling for this available.

> I don't mind being taxed at all. Spoken like somebody who has never had a taxpayer-funded clusterbomb dropped on their children. Taxes pay for evil. The only reason I pay them is because I don't want to be a victim of violence myself.

The internet has child porn, so let's shut that down as well??

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by jMyles »

arcticbull wrote: post #110
jMyles wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't mind being taxed at all. Spoken like somebody who has never had a taxpayer-funded clusterbomb dropped on their children. Taxes pay for evil. The only reason I pay them is because I don't want to be a victim of violence myself.

Spoken like someone who's never lived under a functioning socialized government like, say, Canada.

I love Canada! I have no problem with Canada.

But I don't think it's fair to consider one nation in isolation; the entire world system has afforded hegemonic states for over a century now. Time to bring it to a close.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by jMyles »

orthecreedence wrote: post #111
jMyles wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't mind being taxed at all. Spoken like somebody who has never had a taxpayer-funded clusterbomb dropped on their children. Taxes pay for evil. The only reason I pay them is because I don't want to be a victim of violence myself.

The internet has child porn, so let's shut that down as well??

I don't think this is a reasonble analogy. I don't advance or enable child porn merely by using the internet.

By contrast, I do advance and enable senseless state violence by paying taxes. It is a source of personal shame.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by etherael »

simonswords82 wrote: post #101
throwaway30yo wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I on the other hand, mind being taxed.

Not saying I disagree with you, but I'd like to understand your reasoning...

I also mind being robbed. And for exactly the same reason.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by maxander »

jMyles wrote: post #113
orthecreedence wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet has child porn, so let's shut that down as well??

I don't think this is a reasonble analogy. I don't advance or enable child porn merely by using the internet. By contrast, I do advance and enable senseless state violence by paying taxes. It is a source of personal shame.

Your taxes also help pay for the education of millions of children, among other things, so there’s that.

More to the point, your objection has some merit- but if you (or anyone else reading this) feels that way, are you protesting or otherwise politically agitating against war, or are you just sitting around feeling abstractly ashamed?

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by jMyles »

maxander wrote: post #115
jMyles wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is a reasonble analogy. I don't advance or enable child porn merely by using the internet. By contrast, I do advance and enable senseless state violence by paying taxes. It is a source of personal shame.

Your taxes also help pay for the education of millions of children, among other things, so there’s that. More to the point, your objection has some merit- but if you (or anyone else reading this) feels that way, are you protesting or otherwise politically agitating against war, or are you just sitting around feeling abstractly ashamed?

For me, prisons are a more front-and-center topic of activism. I've been involved with SSDP for over a decade. My only real anti-war activism (since the protests around the 2003 war) has been donating to Doctors Without Borders.

But that wasn't quite the point I was making. All I'm saying is that there's no reason to be proud per se of paying taxes.

And while I wish that education were better funded (and National Parks, and NPR), I don't think that it's reasonable to suppose that, so long as we make the mistake of delegating those things to the state, that it won't use our money mostly for misery and death.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by BearGoesChirp »

simonswords82 wrote: post #101
throwaway30yo wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I on the other hand, mind being taxed.

Not saying I disagree with you, but I'd like to understand your reasoning...

Can't speak for them, but for me the issue isn't all taxation, but it is the extent of taxation and what it is spent on. I mind being taxed when that money is going to corrupt government contracts, being used to kill innocent people, and a number of other positions which I would get varying levels of agreement with.

Taxes used for ensuring murderers aren't free on the street is a lot different than taxes used to put people in prison for pot.

This is especially true since we are at a point where most people are taxed without representation, because their vote buys so little in comparison to lobbying or other factors (such as us having first past the poll system of election in the US).

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by throwaway30yo »

arcticbull wrote: post #110
jMyles wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't mind being taxed at all. Spoken like somebody who has never had a taxpayer-funded clusterbomb dropped on their children. Taxes pay for evil. The only reason I pay them is because I don't want to be a victim of violence myself.

Spoken like someone who's never lived under a functioning socialized government like, say, Canada.

Spoken like someone not from Canada.

When the government was funding all of the residential schools, you had no option but to pay the government or risk being tortured.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by BearGoesChirp »

orthecreedence wrote: post #111
jMyles wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't mind being taxed at all. Spoken like somebody who has never had a taxpayer-funded clusterbomb dropped on their children. Taxes pay for evil. The only reason I pay them is because I don't want to be a victim of violence myself.

The internet has child porn, so let's shut that down as well??

Isn't that what we are doing? Not exactly shutting it down, but massive amounts of privacy destroying laws and related technologies are in place for this reason, but which are used more to enforce laws with far less agreement. We didn't shut the internet down, but we destroyed a part of it.

Re: Tax-Free Bitcoin-To-Ether Trading in US to End Under GOP Plan

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Post by throwaway613834 »

throwaway30yo wrote: post #99
mancerayder wrote: post #90

I don't mind being taxed at all. What I find stressful is calculating - not just the 'what was the USD price at the time of the exchange' that has to be manually entered and looked up into the exported CSV spreadsheet... BUT tying that to the movement of coin from Coinbase to the exchange. It's a pain. I regret using Bittrex, as there's almost no tooling for this available.

I on the other hand, mind being taxed.

Do you also mind having free public schools and roads...?
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