I hope they will do the same with their cars. When the tires get old, just slow down the car to keep it safe. Having a light come up that tells me my car needs maintenance is so old school.
Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
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Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about just the ability for a user to replace the battery? Should be a law to cut down on ewaste.
Alternatively, folks buy batteries they don’t need just because they can. I did that with my Galaxy Note, bought a spare because they were $30 and because I could. Never used it, the Note had great battery life. Now it sits on a shelf, waiting for me to recycle it.
Somehow I am reminded of the lyrics "You spin me right round, right round, baby."
The spin, I feel, is that somehow being able to replace one's batteries is bad. Whereas having an iPhone with degraded performance and an expensive-to-replace battery is good.
You "bought a spare because you could" and "now it sits, waiting for you to recycle it", thus creating waste, but one can argue that anyone buying stuff they don't need creates waste, and that being able to replace one's phone battery isn't about saving the environment but saving one's hard-earned money.
Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#43It's not only to make them run longer - they're reducing the peak demand on the batteries to avoid spontaneous shutdown when the aged battery can't handle the load. This seems like a good idea, and it appears to be well executed (ie it's not apparently based just on age or milage like a crappy car maintenance reminder), but Apple should probably have something in iOS that tells people their phone is running slow beca…
Yeah, this is a real problem that I’ve had with devices in the past and as someone who doesn’t buy the hot new phone every year, I appreciate that Apple is taking steps to keep my 5S happy. That’s a commitment to long-term support that I would not expect from the average Android phone vendor.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
iPhones have the longest life of any smartphone and you can verify that yourself by looking at the used market for it (and any Apple product). User replaceable batteries may ironically decrease that and increase waste.
How would replaceable batteries decrease the life of the smartphone?
It wouldn't. It would obviously increase the lifespan of it.
The spinsters are deliberately confusing "lifespan" with "resale value".
Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
iPhones have the longest life of any smartphone and you can verify that yourself by looking at the used market for it (and any Apple product). User replaceable batteries may ironically decrease that and increase waste.
How would replaceable batteries decrease the life of the smartphone?
It is replaceable (by Apple, authorized and unauthorized third parties). User replaceable batteries could increase waste by being less reliable overall. I know every TV remote I've owned with a battery door eventually ends up with a rubber band around it, and I think that's pretty much a universal experience.
Also we've had this debate for years already when Apple went to unibody Macbooks. The reliability and battery life only increased because of the better structural integrity and increased room for battery cells.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
My smartphone in 2008 was an iPhone. It slowed down unacceptably and I never bought another piece of Apple hardware again. My 3 phones since then all remained usable past 2 years until I was ready to replace them on my own schedule.
Same experience, but I went back to the iPhone once, only once, with the iPhone 5s, and then already deeply regretted it after updating iOS to the latest. I should have known they'd do it again after what I experienced with the iPhone 3g last update, which made the thing so slow it was unusable. The iPhone 5s should have hardware that is much faster than what's in a Moto G2. Yet, my friend's Moto G2 feels smoother in…
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Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#47Let's get real here, they did this to reduce battery related warranty claims.
Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#48Dear one of the richest damn companies on the face of the earth: MAKE . IT . EASIER . TO . REPLACE . THE . BATTERY !!!
You can replace it an an Apple Store for $79.
Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#49Had the battery in my iPhone SE replaced about an hour ago to test this out
Geekbench 4 benchmark before https://twitter.com/invisiblea/status/943439761066397696
And after https://twitter.com/invisiblea/status/943891561661812736
Re: Apple Says It Slows Older iPhones to Save Their Battery Life
#50It's not only to make them run longer - they're reducing the peak demand on the batteries to avoid spontaneous shutdown when the aged battery can't handle the load. This seems like a good idea, and it appears to be well executed (ie it's not apparently based just on age or milage like a crappy car maintenance reminder), but Apple should probably have something in iOS that tells people their phone is running slow beca…
You make a good point. If you consider that you can't easily change the battery in an iPhone without voiding the warranty or paying a premium price to Apple Support then one can make a strong argument that it's sneaky planned obsolescence. Then again, a battery that dies down after a few years and is so difficult to replace is also planned obsolescence.
It's just another nail in the coffin. OS upgrades requiring more CPU usage, the lack of repair-ability, dying batteries, and now this CPU tweak.
It's pretty obvious what apple is doing. We need a law to make them stop or at least one which requires them to declare in obvious language about the things that reduce the functioning of their devices over time.