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Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by degif »

xwvvvvwx wrote: post #18
degif wrote: post #14

Hey, one of the developers here! Happy to see this on Hacker news, thought the CMS is still in heavy development. Happy to answer questions and I hope we can stay on the problem/technology/product topic and oversee all the crazy speculation stuff ;)

Nice work! This seems really slick :) How has your experience of building with IOTA been? Is there a good SDK / documentation somewhere? I've just started digging into Ethereum and so far I've been a bit disappointed by the standard of the tooling... :/

Right now IOTA works as a content storage and distribution "database" regarding to what we are building, so it's more simple than Ethereum smart contracts and their own language. The API SDK's are all there and are working great for us!

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by degif »

VMG wrote: post #19
degif wrote: post #14

Hey, one of the developers here! Happy to see this on Hacker news, thought the CMS is still in heavy development. Happy to answer questions and I hope we can stay on the problem/technology/product topic and oversee all the crazy speculation stuff ;)

why is fog.sh storage better than dropbox?

It's not because of Apples and Oranges :)

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by xwvvvvwx »

silversvrfer wrote: post #15
xwvvvvwx wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project: - Use of ternary logic [1] - Writing their own hash function [1] - Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2] - The Github issues page for their wallet client [3] I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trus…

Hi, -Can you explain why the use of ternary logic is red flag? I can explain why it is not but you have to justify your statement first. You calling the use of ternary logic a red flag must be based off of something I assume. -They used a custom Hash functio called "Curl". But they now replaced it with KECCAK-384. Curl is now being reviewed by a third party. -For this, I will let CFB (one of the devs) to explain. htt…

Ternary logic is a pretty niche thing. As I understand it the claimed benefit is improved efficiency / elegance for some mathematical operations when run on a ternary computer.

However since all modern hardware is binary, the use of ternary logic only serves to introduce an unnecessary software based translation layer, simultaneously increasing complexity and reducing performance.

I would consider this to be an example of very poor engineering judgement. Good software is simple software. I would be extremely concerned if a colleague suggested such needless overcomplication.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by detaro »

RoqueNE wrote: post #13
aqsheehy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because he's not invested in iota like you clearly are.

How does the fact that he is not invested give him the right to spread false informations and throw dirt? When i see bullshit, i call it out. simple as that. My opinion is as good as his. But my sources are much better and reliably researched and obviously not biased.

A developer defending his project with a blogpost that mostly seems preoccupied with attacking the authors instead of their argument is "obviously not biased"? That response makes them look even worse.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

RoqueNE wrote: post #8
Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Wonder why you only post the old negative articles. There are maybe 5 articles that claim they found something negative, but 20 that are positive or directly debunking the negative articles using credible professional sources. The nonsense about the 'vulnerability' neha found got destroyed in multiple answers. either directly from the devs or from independent sources. Just yesterday one of the core devs answered (aga…

did you literally just sign up for a comment on this post?

bad idea to come in here guns blazing ... what usually works very well on the Internet as a newcomer to any site is to lurk a little. get a feel for the vibe and the people, then decide if you fit-in and comment.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by nlperguiy »

xwvvvvwx wrote: post #12
Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project: - Use of ternary logic [1] - Writing their own hash function [1] - Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2] - The Github issues page for their wallet client [3] I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trus…

https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1159.pdf

The above is a proper paper on how to do math for a DAG based protocol.

Serguei Popov, the research mathematician behind IOTA DAG based protocol, claims that it is impossible to make proofs behind the tech. [1]

[1]: https://medium.com/@johndom/iota-and-spectre-64ee12d9b1a8

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by nikuda »

xwvvvvwx wrote: post #23
silversvrfer wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, -Can you explain why the use of ternary logic is red flag? I can explain why it is not but you have to justify your statement first. You calling the use of ternary logic a red flag must be based off of something I assume. -They used a custom Hash functio called "Curl". But they now replaced it with KECCAK-384. Curl is now being reviewed by a third party. -For this, I will let CFB (one of the devs) to explain. htt…

Ternary logic is a pretty niche thing. As I understand it the claimed benefit is improved efficiency / elegance for some mathematical operations when run on a ternary computer. However since all modern hardware is binary, the use of ternary logic only serves to introduce an unnecessary software based translation layer, simultaneously increasing complexity and reducing performance. I would consider this to be an examp…

However since all modern hardware is binary

They're actually working on trinary hardware with the closely related JINN project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1273040.msg13159701#...

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by hobofan »

silversvrfer wrote: post #15
xwvvvvwx wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project: - Use of ternary logic [1] - Writing their own hash function [1] - Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2] - The Github issues page for their wallet client [3] I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trus…

Hi, -Can you explain why the use of ternary logic is red flag? I can explain why it is not but you have to justify your statement first. You calling the use of ternary logic a red flag must be based off of something I assume. -They used a custom Hash functio called "Curl". But they now replaced it with KECCAK-384. Curl is now being reviewed by a third party. -For this, I will let CFB (one of the devs) to explain. htt…

Using ternary logic causes a lot of things (like the custom cypto) to be non-standard and thus hard to evaluate. "Rolling your own crypto" is a red flag in itself, but making such choices while everyone else in the blockchain/DAG world mainly uses tried-and-tested building blocks, seems like a red flag.

And in the end they are "just" red flags (= warning signs), which might hint at fatal flaws, but also might not.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by mntmn »

Just remember that all the message/transaction metadata is purged when the IOTA team makes a “snapshot”. One of my first evaluations of IOTA was to store IPFS URLs in transactions. Then came a snapshot and all the data was gone. This probably wouldn’t happen in a system with transaction fees.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

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Post by forvelin »

Amount of 'newbie investors' in IOTA and their over-zealous defence in any medium is scary.

We've had Perl people, Python people, Ruby people and their arguments but none of those invested their money in languages' success. This blockchain programming zeal mixed with investors trying to hype their currency is annoying and mildly scary.

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