Study finds police body cameras had no significant impact on use of force
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#2tl;dr: The problem isn't the "body cam". The problem is that the victims can't get at the body cam footage due to various rules put in place by departments and police unions.
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#3Better than nothing, however?
Re: Study finds police body cameras had no significant impact on use of force
#4tl;dr: The problem isn't the "body cam". The problem is that the victims can't get at the body cam footage due to various rules put in place by departments and police unions.
"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place," Schmidt tells CNBC
Re: Study finds police body cameras had no significant impact on use of force
#5Surprise!
You can’t expect to extract any value from cameras under police control.
The cameras must exist beyond the reach of police departments, and publish footage in a way that cannot be censored.
The body cameras get censored because the police have created a system that benefits them, above all else.
The reality of this outcome should weigh heavily on everyone’s mind, about how this correlates with every other aspect of police activity.
Re: Study finds police body cameras had no significant impact on use of force
#6tl;dr: The problem isn't the "body cam". The problem is that the victims can't get at the body cam footage due to various rules put in place by departments and police unions.
"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place," Schmidt tells CNBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6e7wfDHzew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
The "nothing to hide" argument is not relevant for a public servant whose job, by definition, is occurring in public.
Since we give police more power than the average citizen, the more appropriate argument would be: "Who will guard the guards themselves?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%...
At then end of the day, the appropriate answer in a Democratic system must eventually be "the people, themselves".
Body cams don't magically make police better. But, without them, you can't even begin the process.
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#7Better than nothing, however?
Well, no, because they cost money. Every $1 spent on buying and maintaining useless cameras is $1 not spent on actual policing.
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#8Re: Study finds police body cameras had no significant impact on use of force
#9Surprise! You can’t expect to extract any value from cameras under police control. The cameras must exist beyond the reach of police departments, and publish footage in a way that cannot be censored. The body cameras get censored because the police have created a system that benefits them, above all else. The reality of this outcome should weigh heavily on everyone’s mind, about how this correlates with every other a…
The only place that can is the justice department which outranks the police. Which means you have to be really serious about bringing the case to court. That serves as a big deterrent since you don't know what kind of evidence has been recorded or if it is even useful.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, no, because they cost money. Every $1 spent on buying and maintaining useless cameras is $1 not spent on actual policing.
>Every $1 spent on buying and maintaining useless cameras is $1 not spent on actual policing. So, much better than nothing?
If you dream of a Utopian land without police officers, I hear Somalia is gorgeous this time of year.