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Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#11

Post by silversvrfer »

aqsheehy wrote: post #9
RoqueNE wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder why you only post the old negative articles. There are maybe 5 articles that claim they found something negative, but 20 that are positive or directly debunking the negative articles using credible professional sources. The nonsense about the 'vulnerability' neha found got destroyed in multiple answers. either directly from the devs or from independent sources. Just yesterday one of the core devs answered (aga…

Because he's not invested in iota like you clearly are.

You don't have to be invested in something to be unbiased.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#12

Post by xwvvvvwx »

Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project:

- Use of ternary logic [1]

- Writing their own hash function [1]

- Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2]

- The Github issues page for their wallet client [3]

I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trust this team to execute on it.

[EDIT]: Almost forgot the black-box closed source 'central coordinator' [4]

[1]: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

[2]: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Come-from-Beyond/a84ab861...

[3]: https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/issues

[4]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7c3qu8/coordinator_ex...

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#13

Post by RoqueNE »

aqsheehy wrote: post #9
RoqueNE wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder why you only post the old negative articles. There are maybe 5 articles that claim they found something negative, but 20 that are positive or directly debunking the negative articles using credible professional sources. The nonsense about the 'vulnerability' neha found got destroyed in multiple answers. either directly from the devs or from independent sources. Just yesterday one of the core devs answered (aga…

Because he's not invested in iota like you clearly are.

How does the fact that he is not invested give him the right to spread false informations and throw dirt? When i see bullshit, i call it out. simple as that.

My opinion is as good as his. But my sources are much better and reliably researched and obviously not biased.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#15

Post by silversvrfer »

xwvvvvwx wrote: post #12
Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project: - Use of ternary logic [1] - Writing their own hash function [1] - Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2] - The Github issues page for their wallet client [3] I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trus…

Hi,

-Can you explain why the use of ternary logic is red flag? I can explain why it is not but you have to justify your statement first. You calling the use of ternary logic a red flag must be based off of something I assume.

-They used a custom Hash functio called "Curl". But they now replaced it with KECCAK-384. Curl is now being reviewed by a third party.

-For this, I will let CFB (one of the devs) to explain. https://medium.com/@comefrombeyond/cfbs-comments-on-https-ww...

-wallet is a nuisance for some users I agree. But majority of users are fine with the wallet. Of course you can only hear those who had problems.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#16

Post by fijter »

xwvvvvwx wrote: post #12
Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Not really deep into this, and haven't even read the whitepaper, but looking from the outside there are a lot of red flags around this project: - Use of ternary logic [1] - Writing their own hash function [1] - Claiming that the flaws in the hash function were 'copy protection' [2] - The Github issues page for their wallet client [3] I've heard that the DAG approach has merit, but from what I've seen I would not trus…

1: By using a ternary number system, the amount of devices and cycles can be reduced significantly. In contrast to two-state devices, multistate devices provide better radix economy with the option for further scaling

2: Why is explained here: https://blog.iota.org/the-transparency-compendium-26aa5bb8e2... - CyberCrypt is hired to review and audit it.

3: The wallet is secure and does what it needs to do, no, it's not very pretty or user friendly but it works. A new wallet (Trinity wallet) will be released very soon.

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#17

Post by DyslexicAtheist »

tymbaka wrote: post #6
Egidius wrote: post #2

Only 4 days ago this was posted: http://codesuppository.blogspot.nl/2017/12/iota-tangled-mess... Next to that I found this great article in the comments: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-io...

Every cryptocurrency have had their vulnerabilities at some time in the history, I don't see how this is relevant to the topic. Also he claims have been debunked by the IOTA team - https://blog.iota.org/curl-disclosure-beyond-the-headline-18... .

> I don't see how this is relevant to the topic.

At least please read up and educate yourself before conditioning others into your opinion.

> Also he claims have been debunked by the IOTA team

only that they haven't been debunked[1].

Curl/Kerl should be reason enough for anyone to run away screaming. If somebody peddles a secure e2e encrypted messaging app based on an untested freshly invented hashing or encryption algorithm everyone would agree it's wrong. Why should the behavior displayed by IOTA team / management be treated with silk gloves? Whenever I see somebody vouching for IOTA I can only imagine 2 reasons:

  1) person doesn't have a clue about basic engineering / security principles
  2) person owns IOTA ans hence is personally too deep invested to be unbiased
[1] https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4807429/4807429-634451121504...

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#18

Post by xwvvvvwx »

degif wrote: post #14

Hey, one of the developers here! Happy to see this on Hacker news, thought the CMS is still in heavy development. Happy to answer questions and I hope we can stay on the problem/technology/product topic and oversee all the crazy speculation stuff ;)

Nice work! This seems really slick :)

How has your experience of building with IOTA been? Is there a good SDK / documentation somewhere? I've just started digging into Ethereum and so far I've been a bit disappointed by the standard of the tooling... :/

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#19

Post by VMG »

degif wrote: post #14

Hey, one of the developers here! Happy to see this on Hacker news, thought the CMS is still in heavy development. Happy to answer questions and I hope we can stay on the problem/technology/product topic and oversee all the crazy speculation stuff ;)

why is fog.sh storage better than dropbox?

Re: Fog.sh – decentralized content publishing on the IOTA ledger

#20

Post by silversvrfer »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #17
tymbaka wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every cryptocurrency have had their vulnerabilities at some time in the history, I don't see how this is relevant to the topic. Also he claims have been debunked by the IOTA team - https://blog.iota.org/curl-disclosure-beyond-the-headline-18... .

> I don't see how this is relevant to the topic. At least please read up and educate yourself before conditioning others into your opinion. > Also he claims have been debunked by the IOTA team only that they haven't been debunked[1]. Curl/Kerl should be reason enough for anyone to run away screaming. If somebody peddles a secure e2e encrypted messaging app based on an untested freshly invented hashing or encryption a…

Whenever I see somebody still commenting about Curl I can only imagine 2 reasons:

1) You lived the past several months in an island without any internet so you are not updated with the current status of the issue.

2) person invested in primitive blockchain-based coin and is personally too deep to accept innovative solutions

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