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Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

#52
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

Contraband often comes in through employees.

Well, the solution is clear: We ban employees.

/s

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

#53
The article seems like it's sensationalising a little bit and I can't quite work out the purpose.

> "Beat the BOSS" phones can be bought for £25, but are reportedly changing hands for up to £500 inside jails.

This is ostensibly an article about phones being on sale on online marketplaces and being advertised explicitly for smuggling.

So, let's search Amazon UK: "beat the BOSS phone", there's one phone that looks like it's small. Granted, it does say that it's 99.9% plastic. Nowhere in the description is it marketed as being to beat the body scanner. BOSS isn't mentioned.

The second result is a Nokia 105, which I'm fairly sure is not what the article is talking about. Ebay's not-yet-taken-down listings are a little more explicit with one of the two listings referring to a "cell" and "Boss." Arguably, "Boss" could refer to, say, the boss at work. Maybe choosing that as an acronym for the scanners wasn't such a great idea after all.

Questions a journalist might have been expected to have found answers for:

A minister has claimed this, so is it plausible? Could there be another agenda? Is it a distraction?

The claimed battery life is 5 days. How are these being charged?

Is there a legitimate use for such a small phone?

Will extending a ban to outside likely be effective given that, say, drugs are also banned outside prison? The article does not mention drugs other than as contraband.

Why are they £500 if these things are routinely changing hands and can be obtained for so little and are so easy to smuggle?

Who do the inmates pay the £500 to? How?

How are they smuggled? Visitors seems unlikely, because the risk of getting caught is high.

Why is there no analysis of the widespread claims spanning decades that prison guards have been involved in many smuggling operations?

The media has been running stories for months about drones (i.e. quadcopters) being used to smuggle stuff into prisons. Why is there no mention of drones or any synonyms in this article?

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

#55
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, cell towers?

I don't know a tremendous amount about cell towers, but I was under the impression that they couldn't very accurately pinpoint locations - I was thinking more of a [foxhunting]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmitter_hunting)-style location, where you could (hopefully) find a phone's hiding place with relative ease.

A recent article on how to track cell phone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14803443

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

#58

Don't these also have a legit use for people like journalists, who may also require a covert means of communication?

Or maybe just people who want a tiny phone, like kids or women with a small purse.

I was under the impression that the phone are very very small. Would be hard to use for a woman or a child.
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