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Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by PeterisP »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

You could quite easily have a special local cell that only connects a whitelisted list of phone numbers; it could even add visitor phones for the duration of the visit.

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by wolfgke »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

> How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

Isn't it common for prison visits that the visitor is separated from the prisoner by some barrier (e.g. some acrylic glass barrier) so that it is nearly impossible to hand over contrabands, where the visitor is in an area that no prisoner can enter (so that the visitor cannot leave some contraband behind).

And even if there is something to hand over to the prisoner (either from a visitor and mail) I think it will have to go through security clearance. This shows that any way that a visitor uses to hand over some item can also be used via mail - so banning prison visits avails to nothing.

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by perfmode »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

Contraband often comes in through employees.

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by jasonkostempski »

AboutTheWhisles wrote: post #29
userbinator wrote: post #25

Don't these also have a legit use for people like journalists, who may also require a covert means of communication?

Or maybe just people who want a tiny phone, like kids or women with a small purse.

Don't forget fashion models.

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by pessimizer »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

In what calculus would cellphone service for prison employees at work outweigh prisoner visits?

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by jfoutz »

wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

How about registration of sims for the tower that covers the prison?

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by Feniks »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

Actually that would be in violation of human rights. Also prisoners have a right to see their lawyer.

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by scrollaway »

ams6110 wrote: post #33
wolfgke wrote: post #30

Wouldn't it be a much better idea to build prisons at places that simply have no cell coverage? (if necessary make it a law for such a region - this would also make such regions good places for electrosensitive people to settle). Considering that it is very problematic to use jammers and hardly possible to ban sales, too (if it becomes impossible to sell them directly, people will start to sell them from Shenzhen, wh…

Prisons need employees. The employees are going to want cell coverage between work and home. How about just banning prison visits. That would solve a lot of other contraband problems too.

> How about just banning prison visits.

This is sarcasm right? Because if you just want to disregard human life, you might as well just kill everybody instead of incarcerating. No more prisons then! Problem solved?

Re: Call to ban sale of mini mobile phones

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Post by buckminster »

aprescott wrote: post #11
notl4wy3r wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot use a jammer of any kind in the United States, for almost all values of you, including state and federal penal agencies. https://www.fcc.gov/general/jammer-enforcement

That's an interesting US fact, but the story is about the UK. Is it likewise restricted there?

The law was changed to permit jamming in prisons. It is quite difficult to implement because you have to avoid jamming outside the prison, but a successful feasibility study was carried out. And the government decided it was too expensive to roll out nationally.
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