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Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #440
al2o3cr wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comes up a lot in VR/AR discussions, but IMO it's the least likely application in the near to medium term. There's just not enough pixels in the headset to accurately simulate multiple high-resolution monitors. For instance, the Hololens is rumored to have 1280x720 resolution per-eye - so a screen that consumes the entire visual field is only 720p, and "simulated displays" that were farther away would be worse.

People keep saying this over and over but I don’t understand. Why does a HMD need the same resolution as a monitor in order to do the same job? Wouldn’t the HMD be equivalent to having like sixteen 1600x1200 displays all around you, and isn’t that at least as good as a single 4K monitor? You could have one virtual display with close to your face for high resolution information, and then dozens of peripheral displays…

Have you looked at text through a VR headset? It's difficult to fit a lot of legible text on screen at once right now. They need to have incredibly high pixel density in displays that are an inch or so from your eye.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by [deleted] »

donatj wrote: post #448

What I want to know, more than anything, is where this image is used in the page? https://www.magicleap.com/_next/images/5099815a87b8b930e9846... I was inspecting the network traffic of the page and found this image…

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Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by colordrops »

donatj wrote: post #448

What I want to know, more than anything, is where this image is used in the page? https://www.magicleap.com/_next/images/5099815a87b8b930e9846... I was inspecting the network traffic of the page and found this image…

Click the "stories" link at the top.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by pfranz »

phyller wrote: post #226

I don't understand why this entire field seems so focused on gaming, and not productivity. The single most interesting thing to me was the "displays on demand". There are two things that would absolutely revolutionize how I work that I would pay big money for: 1) Any sort of glasses that would allow me to view virtual displays in high definition. I don't care if I have to turn my head to see more than one display, I…

They're focusing on gaming because they're pursuing the consumer market. The things you describe sound like a much better fit for the business market (and there are people, likely including Magic Leap, pursuing it).

But what you describe isn't quite there technologically; they just don't have the resolution or refresh rate and input methods are still evolving. Another issue with AR is that it's only additive. The lenses make everything darker and they can only add light.

Some of the best use-cases I've seen for AR is assistive technology where it walks you through taking something apart labeling each part. Right now that requires an incredible amount of manual resources to generate (or would require a huge investment and significant breakthroughs to make dynamically generated or procedural). That tech is orthogonal to the display and input, but both are necessary for a product.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by tigershark »

downandout wrote: post #478
tigershark wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the Rolling Stones journalist is lying of course... Guys, you are really shocking in trying to throw mud over magic leap in any way possible.

Have you seen the page? It’s literally nothing more than an email opt-in with some clearly photoshopped images of a device that doesn’t exist yet, even in mock-up form (otherwise they would have used the mock-up in the photos).

Did you read the Rolling Stones article?

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by dfee »

What would the ownership situation look like ina company like this? It’s raised nearly a couple billion, but has not delivered a single unit.

What is realistically the ownership of the founding team at this point, and how would they go about raising all this capital and still maintaining some semblance of ownership and control?

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by dymk »

simonhughes22 wrote: post #421
chisleu wrote: post #242

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The big problem there is resolution and the "Screen door" effect. Text has to be fairly large in order to be readable. We will need an enormous resolution and incredibly low dot pitch to solve those issues and make productivity tools possible. This is the tech space where I dream of working. I have been designing features for developer teams in AR but without the hardware being available, it's all theory.

That's a solvable problem though - it's more a matter of cost and the pixel density will go up and the cost down over time. I don't see this a long term limitation of this tech. Have you seen the Pimax 8k VR headset for instance? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimax8kvr/pimax-the-wor...

It's probably solvable eventually, but the tech isn't there yet.

Companies can focus on the gaming industry first because it's tolerant of slightly degraded looking graphics and inability to render high fidelity text, and they can start selling headsets now to that demographic. A person writing code all day or looking at spreadsheets will not tolerate reading small text through a screendoor.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by tigershark »

pharrington wrote: post #470
tigershark wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is absolutely false, the Rolling Stones journalist tested extensively the miniaturised prototype.

The article begins with the author describing several demos, only after which he is guided to a different room where he has, in his own words, "My first close look at the full Magic Leap hardware." Rony Abovitz calls the chips supposedly powering his tech "Sea Monkeys."

"I noticed that when I moved or looked around, her eyes tracked mine. The cameras inside the Lightwear was feeding her data so she could maintain eye contact."

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by stesch »

phyller wrote: post #226

I don't understand why this entire field seems so focused on gaming, and not productivity. The single most interesting thing to me was the "displays on demand". There are two things that would absolutely revolutionize how I work that I would pay big money for: 1) Any sort of glasses that would allow me to view virtual displays in high definition. I don't care if I have to turn my head to see more than one display, I…

> I don't understand why this entire field seems so focused on gaming, and not productivity.

Meta is focused on productivity.

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