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Post by IshKebab »

moron4hire wrote: post #273
TeMPOraL wrote: post #177

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But Oculus actually has those products on the market, and unlike Magic Leap, it's not universally recognized as vapourware.

You may forget what 2015 was like. The Oculus Kickstarter was in 2012. By 2015 there were a lot of people questioning whether or not the CV1 was actually going to happen. Yes, we had the DK1 and DK2 at that point, but we're not actually talking about a very long period of time here. Magic Leap first formed in 2010. It's said that the iPhone took 7 years to develop, basically in secret, for an established company with…

I remember, and I don't recall anyone seriously doubting whether or not CV1 would happen. Plus, as you say they had publicly available prototypes. The original Kickstarter had real videos of prototypes and John Carmack saying it was great. Totally different situation.

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Post by jhiska »

lvoudour wrote: post #68

Since the 1st iteration of the design is apparently ready, why can't they just show a small demo? It's supposed to be shipping in 2018. They could easily have hired a team of top notch creators to showcase some of the capabilities of the device live -even if the device is still not 100% ready- instead of this silly Manhattan project secrecy. I hope they deliver as promised, but something smells fishy. It's a pity, be…

You're right. It's yet another teaser. Not holding my breath.

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Post by ouiea »

baldfat wrote: post #149
kilroy123 wrote: post #130

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My guess is, they are wanting more money. It's not really ready and won't ship next year. I agree something is fishy.

$1,887,500,000 should have been enough! https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/magic-leap

I bet India can put a man on Mars for a fraction of that amount.

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Post by cma »

kirillzubovsky wrote: post #287

In my opinion, the new Magic Leap seems to do exactly what Microsoft Hololens could do two years ago. The only advantage they could have is in the UI, which MS 100% failed at, and in content availability which was really poor for MS as well. This thing could be huge, if the first people who try it on find an abundance of interactive experiences, so much that they rave about it, and make everyone else want one. Best y…

I think they will have some ability to have variable focus, and it sounds like the field of view is slightly bigger, but not by enough yet.

Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by grogenaut »

phyller wrote: post #340
grogenaut wrote: post #311

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What is the rate of spending in industry on displays vs computers? My general feel is people skimp on displays and over spend on compute. So it would be hard to fight that trend. Secondly with VR as a desktop replacement... This is simple math. A 4k (or higher) 30" monitor will always be easier and cheaper to build and worst case the same. Except it's at 3' from your face. Shrink that monitor massively and stick it i…

I don't need a virtual 4K monitor. I can turn my head to see more, just like I do in real life. How close do you have to be to see the pixels in a 4K monitor, and at that point, can you see the entire monitor without looking around? I want the portability, and then the resolution just has to be good enough. If we could get a virtual 1080p display that would be amazing and good enough. But to your point, the VR displa…

you're not doing the math... this is not meant as a slight but:

how big is your virtual 1080p screen representing? and at what distance. give me those numbers and I can tell you what display tech it needs to be, but it's going to be on the order of 10-20x density. it's all about pixel radians.

Also, 1080 is quite small for reading, macs have retina displays which is nearing print when running anti-aliasing.

And don't think I'm attacking you, I want this too. It's just that I did the math.

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Post by jackhack »

wlesieutre wrote: post #291
IMTDb wrote: post #252

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That and the whole "how do you make stuff opaque". All the demo show semi-transparent object being added to the real world. Making text legible when you can't fully control the background on which it is display is very hard. My best guess is that if they don't advertise that use-case it is because they don't really feel ready to be judged on it.

Magic Leap claims to be able to occlude real-world objects with their AR, not just semi-transparent "hologram" overlays. This is something I'd want to see for myself, but here's what Brian Crecente at Rolling Stone wrote about it: > Miller wanted to show me one other neat trick. He walked to the far end of the large room and asked me to launch Gimble. The robot obediently appeared in the distance, floating next to Mi…

>>able to occlude real-world objects

Here's an application for drivers and pilots: smart sun-shade to block out bright lights (headlights), sunlight, or glints off surfaces (water).

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Post by npgatech »

ben20gmt7 wrote: post #223
npgatech wrote: post #113

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This kind of thing drives me crazy! But, for a small project that’s not obvious to anyone - this makes sense. Look at Apple’s full iPhone landing page. It’d be silly to explain at the top “iPhone is a wireless digital communication device.” It’s obvious that dude is wearing glasses that look like AR/VR headset. You ain’t gotta spell it out for people.

It would be silly because everyone knows what an iPhone is. Not everyone knows what Magic Leap is. When I first saw it I couldn’t figure out what it was. Bad website.

You seriously can’t tell it’s a AR/VR headset by looking at a guy wearing glasses with two wires coming out of it?

You may not know what MagicLeap - the company - is, but you certainly don’t need to be told it’s a AR/VR headset.

I agree with obscure random crap that shows up on HN and takes forever to figure out what it is. This isn’t one of those cases. It’s utterly obvious.

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Post by emiliobumachar »

phyller wrote: post #226

I don't understand why this entire field seems so focused on gaming, and not productivity. The single most interesting thing to me was the "displays on demand". There are two things that would absolutely revolutionize how I work that I would pay big money for: 1) Any sort of glasses that would allow me to view virtual displays in high definition. I don't care if I have to turn my head to see more than one display, I…

Agreed. Virtual IMAX-sized screens far away would solve the eye focus strain problem. The health benefits would be very large.
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