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Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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While it's valid to question insider trading in cryprocurrency, I don't think that's what made the difference here. Coinbase had said they would add BCH to their exchange before the end of the year months ago. And people had noted BCH appearing in their API a day or two ago, and then the trading pages were up for an hour or two before the official announcement, with some very large orders being placed in advance of t…

Bitcoin price started to tank on December 18th @ 00:00 UTC while BCH started an up-climb at right about the same time. This could be explained by the anticipation of the announcement from Coinbase. But then shortly after Coinbase stopped all trades for BCH, I saw this on Twitter [1]. I don't know, but this last bit is definitely looking very odd. [1] https://twitter.com/whalepool/status/943279673554894848

I might be an insider but I bought BCH before the pump. The news was everywhere in the crypto space (telegram, tradingview, twitter) last week.

Ps: I don't trade, I'm a hodleur

Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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I watched this happen live. There was a very obvious trading software malfunction. Here's what I watched happen. People could place orders before trading started. I was watching BCH/USD and BCH/BTC which had a fixed price, $3100 USD and 3.00 BTC respectively. BCH/USD had a huge amount of buy pressure (people buying BCH with cash); BCH/BTC had a huge amount of sell pressure (people dumping the airdrop). Only BCH/USD w…

Interesting stuff, nice write-up!

I tried to buy it last night and this morning for the ~3K price, and I was blocked by Coinbase. Now it's past the 4K point.

Maybe there's no grand conspiracy, but there's something plasticy about the price movement combined with blocking of new buys at the lower prices (on Coinbase).

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Your examples comes down to centralized decision & regulation, isn't money printing also "regulation" that's how they call it, wile bitcoin is the most decentralized currency, no Emperor can replace it, no changes can be done without widespread conses. The incredible energy for digging out gold just to keep it in locked boxes, same for all precious metals, diamonds.

Gold has real life use even in electrical circuits, besides being pretty. Diamond is used in the industry as well, not just engagement rings. They are also all physical objects. > no Emperor can replace it, no changes can be done without widespread conses. When was the last time humans were capable of agreeing and working together for long term? The blockchain thinks it's got rid of the mad emperor problem, where in…

> mad emperor problem

As a tangent, what is that? Didn't find it on google (thought I wanted the wikipedia on caligula).

Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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I watched this happen live. There was a very obvious trading software malfunction. Here's what I watched happen. People could place orders before trading started. I was watching BCH/USD and BCH/BTC which had a fixed price, $3100 USD and 3.00 BTC respectively. BCH/USD had a huge amount of buy pressure (people buying BCH with cash); BCH/BTC had a huge amount of sell pressure (people dumping the airdrop). Only BCH/USD w…

I haven't heard any suggestion that they're going to roll back any of the trades that happened, in fact I'm not sure they even can because that money may not even be on the exchange anymore. Their plan seems to be to clear orders, reopen trading again about a day after last attempt (so about now), and hope it goes better this time.

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This is the second event involving BCH which is looking very "artificial" for the lack of a better word. About a month ago, BCH started an abrupt up-climb while the prices on BTC started to fall dramatically. BTC recovered soon after by hitting all-time highs while BCH prices fell pretty hard. Now we get these talks of insider trading at Coinbase. I don't have much stake in cryptocurrencies and I actually did not min…

There's also a good criticism of BCH here: https://medium.com/@homakov/weekly-sync-friction-the-most-im...

Basically it will be too much bandwidth for most users to bother running their own core, meaning increased centralization for BCH and easy way to kill it in the future through some government action or bug.

Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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post #81
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoin price started to tank on December 18th @ 00:00 UTC while BCH started an up-climb at right about the same time. This could be explained by the anticipation of the announcement from Coinbase. But then shortly after Coinbase stopped all trades for BCH, I saw this on Twitter [1]. I don't know, but this last bit is definitely looking very odd. [1] https://twitter.com/whalepool/status/943279673554894848

I might be an insider but I bought BCH before the pump. The news was everywhere in the crypto space (telegram, tradingview, twitter) last week. Ps: I don't trade, I'm a hodleur

What do you mean, you might be an insider?

Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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If you take the time to learn what's trustworthy, principled, and safe...you won't have any of these issues. Except (2), but that's being worked out right now. Furthermore, it's way too early to compare crypto to established finance. Just because crypto awareness has gone mainstream, doesn't mean it's ready to compete just yet. It's still technology for early-adopters. Those who don't understand that will get screwed…

I will say that one of the early benefits to bitcoin, low/nonexistent middlemen fees, is not really a thing anymore. Every single time you move across wallets, at current prices no matter how much coin you're moving, you're out the equivalent of $20USD. Considering that basic BTC opsec is to move your coins around regularly, this is painful unless you have insane amounts of money to throw around.

People dump their BTC into Monero or Zcash and then sell back into BTC these days instead of using coincontrol for select inputs or tumblers anymore.

Re: Bitcoin Cash deals frozen as insider trading is probed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it's valid to question insider trading in cryprocurrency, I don't think that's what made the difference here. Coinbase had said they would add BCH to their exchange before the end of the year months ago. And people had noted BCH appearing in their API a day or two ago, and then the trading pages were up for an hour or two before the official announcement, with some very large orders being placed in advance of t…

There have been bitcoin forks before, i don't see why bcash is so special that coinbase felt the need to add it.

As Bitcoin Cash proponents put it, it's not a fork, it's what Bitcoin would be been without the forks (SegWit and others) that are present day BTC.

I don't know if that makes it special, but it does mean it's something different from, say, Bitcoin Diamond or Bitcoin Gold.

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