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Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by piscisaureus »

skrebbel wrote: post #8
cm2187 wrote: post #4

I think Windows 10 S has more to lose than Chrome in this new browser battle. Even on regular Windows 10 people go against every trick Microsoft throws at them to use Chrome rather than Edge (which is kind of a low feature Internet Explorer). If Windows 10 S wants to define itself as the only version of Windows where you will be forced no matter what to use Edge, they will stay in the low single digit market share. T…

> Edge (which is kind of a low feature Internet Explorer). I agree with your comment in general, but Edge really is significantly better than IE. It supports most modern web stuff, it's much faster and the UI is pretty nice and clean. Sure, the latter is a matter of taste too but it really beats IE on all fronts. Opinions clearly vary on whether it can compete with the likes of Chrome and Firefox, but it's not a "low…

IMO Edge is a fine browser - snappy, stable, up-to-date with web standards.

My big beef with it is that it tries to force feed me Bing wherever it can (even after switching the default search engine). That's a big no-no.

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by pgeorgi »

headmelted wrote: post #29
paulus_magnus2 wrote: post #27

I'd like EU court to look into Apple iOS and now MS Windows, Google Chromebooks lock the user into a single source of "apps". It's like you were limited to fill / charge your car at stations owned by the manufacturer.

To be fair, Chromebooks require a Google account, which I agree should be completely optional for the user. Beyond that though, there's very little dependence on Google for apps. The web store opens in a browser window and (if someone were to create one) could easily go to a different store. Likewise, Android-compatible Chromebooks can use Aptoide same as any other compatible Android device (although Android should b…

> "I trust X app store in addition to Google Play"

That's in Android 8.0: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/21/android-o-feature-sp...

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by pjmlp »

hpaavola wrote: post #14
pjmlp wrote: post #12

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Google doesn't have any issue having to deal with it for iOS.

I'm sure they have many issues with it, but they just don't have any options. Ditching Windows 10 S is an option since it has such a small market share.

I bet outside US it will have much more market share than Chromebooks.

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by nailer »

Ari_Ugwu wrote: post #46
nailer wrote: post #43

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It's a better version which has discoverable, current API apps, that don't kill your battery and all update at the same time thanks to an app store.

100% this. They will also be treating PWA (progressive web apps) as first class citizens. Same as everyone else. Honestly, I think if they would just buy Nox ( https://www.bignox.com/ ) and bake it into Windows 10/S as a side channel in the Windows store they would start to control the PC narrative again. I'm currently on a slick Dell XPS 13, using the linux subsystem _and_ android apps through NOX without issue. Thi…

Thanks. Using Windows 10 fast ring, PWA support is poor. Opening a pinned site in the taskbar for say, Olark, doesn't highlight the Olark taskbar item, but highlights the Edge item, and starts a bunch of unrelated tabs. Are they going to fix that?

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

Fnoord wrote: post #48
nikanj wrote: post #40

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User installs ”Chrome” from Windows Store, gets malware and crap. I’d bet 87% of the users would blame Google, not Microsoft.

I bet 95,73% of all statistics are made up.

I bet you're from Scandinavia!

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by Const-me »

piscisaureus wrote: post #51
skrebbel wrote: post #8

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> Edge (which is kind of a low feature Internet Explorer). I agree with your comment in general, but Edge really is significantly better than IE. It supports most modern web stuff, it's much faster and the UI is pretty nice and clean. Sure, the latter is a matter of taste too but it really beats IE on all fronts. Opinions clearly vary on whether it can compete with the likes of Chrome and Firefox, but it's not a "low…

IMO Edge is a fine browser - snappy, stable, up-to-date with web standards. My big beef with it is that it tries to force feed me Bing wherever it can (even after switching the default search engine). That's a big no-no.

I’m using Edge and haven’t noticed any Bing promotions. Using DDG for my default search engine.

But I did notice google is trying to force feed me Chrome when I visit google’s web sites. I click “No I don’t want Chrome” in these popups, the popup disappears for a few days and then pops up again.

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by hungerstrike »

Google had a Metro/Modern/whatever version of Chrome in the App Store when Windows 8 came out. I didn't search very much, but here is one reference to it - http://www.omgchrome.com/open-chrome-metro-mode-windows-8/

I don't remember when they took it away, but I wonder why they stopped producing it? My guess is that they realized what a flop the Windows Store turned out to be.

Personally, I don't use a single Metro app outside of Settings because I don't like walled-gardens and I don't want to give Microsoft anymore incentive to turn Windows into one (Apples profits have already incentive-ized them enough!)

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by hungerstrike »

romanovcode wrote: post #20
Lio wrote: post #10

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Microsoft. They have historically provided a low quality, non-standard rendering and JavaScript experience. That they are trying underhanded means to stop people opting out of that experience is a reveal that the old Microsoft is still there. Apple should not to be emulated on this.

Did you try Edge?

Did you ever search around for reviews on Edge? By most accounts - it sucks.

I'm sure you can find good reviews from shills, people with a low attention for detail or people with very basic needs. Even if you disagree with my thoughts on Edge reviews - the Edge browser market share speaks volumes: Nobody is using it.

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by Ari_Ugwu »

nailer wrote: post #54
Ari_Ugwu wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% this. They will also be treating PWA (progressive web apps) as first class citizens. Same as everyone else. Honestly, I think if they would just buy Nox ( https://www.bignox.com/ ) and bake it into Windows 10/S as a side channel in the Windows store they would start to control the PC narrative again. I'm currently on a slick Dell XPS 13, using the linux subsystem _and_ android apps through NOX without issue. Thi…

Thanks. Using Windows 10 fast ring, PWA support is poor. Opening a pinned site in the taskbar for say, Olark, doesn't highlight the Olark taskbar item, but highlights the Edge item, and starts a bunch of unrelated tabs. Are they going to fix that?

To the best of my knowledge this will be PWAs delivered through the Windows Store. Not for example, Chrome/FireFox/Edge PWAs having better support within Windows.

As to what they'll fix/implement when. I only have my opinion which is - Microsoft has been chasing this dragon for sometime and they love to redefine and confuse terms as they go.

This link is the root of my confirmation bias though -> https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/142649/microsoft...

Re: Microsoft Removes Google’s Chrome Installer from the Windows Store

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Post by calvano915 »

pjc50 wrote: post #24
skrebbel wrote: post #8

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> Edge (which is kind of a low feature Internet Explorer). I agree with your comment in general, but Edge really is significantly better than IE. It supports most modern web stuff, it's much faster and the UI is pretty nice and clean. Sure, the latter is a matter of taste too but it really beats IE on all fronts. Opinions clearly vary on whether it can compete with the likes of Chrome and Firefox, but it's not a "low…

Edge has ugly font rendering (seems to be common to all Metro apps) and loses all your tabs when you quit (total dealbreaker for me).

I don't lose tabs when I close Edge (it does warn that I am closing all tabs when I exit). They come back when I open Edge the next time. Definitely a setting that can be switched.

The only suggestion for fonts is maybe using the ClearType font tuner tool in Control Panel.

FWIW I prefer Chrome but dig what MS is doing with Edge.

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