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2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by microtonal »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

Besides Windows 10 telemetry being a privacy invasion, there are people who just prefer Linux or another Unix-like. Why would they switch to Windows?

E.g. take me. I have used UNIX in some shape or form since 1994. I do not have anything against Windows. Technically the NT kernel is a marvel of engineering. But my brain is just fundamentally incompatible with Windows. The UNIX shell is ingrained, vim keys are ingrained, etc.

definitely more secure than their counterparts

Based on what criteria? And what counterpart are you comparing Windows to? Linux with X.org? Linux with Wayland and SELinux? macOS?

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by adrianN »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

Because some people like Linux better but still need to run programs that are Windows-only.

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by tokenizerrr »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

How do I run it on Linux? And no, that subsystem is not Linux.

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by martin_andrino »

microtonal wrote: post #11
martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

Besides Windows 10 telemetry being a privacy invasion, there are people who just prefer Linux or another Unix-like. Why would they switch to Windows? E.g. take me. I have used UNIX in some shape or form since 1994. I do not have anything against Windows. Technically the NT kernel is a marvel of engineering. But my brain is just fundamentally incompatible with Windows. The UNIX shell is ingrained, vim keys are ingrain…

>Besides Windows 10 telemetry being a privacy invasion

Based on what criteria?

Windows 10 never allowed you to login with passwordless root. Case closed.

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by datenwolf »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

I do all of my electronics development work on Linux. In part also using nonfree software. This is not a matter of principle for me, but a matter of productivity and efficiency.

- design circuit and PCB using EAGLE (nonfree – and BTW fuck that Autodesk subscription model).

- perform circuit simulation using LTSpice.

- compile firmware using a GCC toolchain – if using a MinGW port on Windows the linking times even for small images are abysmally long; I don't have time for that.

- since recently: synthesize and route FPGAs using yosys and the iceStorm tools.

- flash using OpenOCD.

Not all of these tools work without flaws under Windows (neither as port nor in the WSL). Of all the tools above there's only one for which no Linux port exists: LTSpice. That's what I use Wine for.

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by realusername »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

I heard of this "Windows 10" indeed but does it run on Linux ?

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by fps_doug »

Too bad I don't have the time to read the long comment thread on there right now. Hopefully I will remember to do so after work. :) Instances like this are really interesting to me, as it seems early on in the thread the commit the broke Photoshop was identified, yet it took them 5 years to finally commit a fix. From the outside it's easy to say the wine devs are lazy/stupid for not having fixed it right away, but I suspect there is a story buried in there that tells why it wasn't that simple.

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by martin_andrino »

datenwolf wrote: post #15
martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

I do all of my electronics development work on Linux. In part also using nonfree software. This is not a matter of principle for me, but a matter of productivity and efficiency. - design circuit and PCB using EAGLE (nonfree – and BTW fuck that Autodesk subscription model). - perform circuit simulation using LTSpice. - compile firmware using a GCC toolchain – if using a MinGW port on Windows the linking times even for…

I bet you also use GIMP because you never understood how Photoshop is superior, right? sigh

Open-source software is definitely inferior, why people keep ignoring this obvious fact?

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by exikyut »

martin_andrino wrote: post #5

I still wonder why Wine exists at all given that Windows 10 is an excellent OS - definitely more secure than their counterparts, and completely free.

I'm not sure how/where you're getting "and completely free" from. Windows 10 is not legally "infinitely free."

Re: 2012 Wine bug "Drawing in Photoshop CS5 is almost impossible" now fixed

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Post by exikyut »

martin_andrino wrote: post #14
microtonal wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides Windows 10 telemetry being a privacy invasion, there are people who just prefer Linux or another Unix-like. Why would they switch to Windows? E.g. take me. I have used UNIX in some shape or form since 1994. I do not have anything against Windows. Technically the NT kernel is a marvel of engineering. But my brain is just fundamentally incompatible with Windows. The UNIX shell is ingrained, vim keys are ingrain…

>Besides Windows 10 telemetry being a privacy invasion Based on what criteria? Windows 10 never allowed you to login with passwordless root. Case closed.

Windows 10, maybe not, but Windows Vista and XP and 2000, on the other hand...
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