looking at https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/
and apparently still ±50% of currently active iPhones seem to be a 6(S)(+). Which is a LOT more than I expected. I don't see how Apple is going to ignore this one.
iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
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Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
iPhones do have replaceable batteries, only not DIY. It's like $80 w/o warranty or AppleCare. I've bought dozens of Android replacement batteries and the only batteries worth the cost of shipping were actual real OEM ones. And those always cost >$60. Knockoffs would start out decent and then die within a few weeks to months. Apple's approach gets my vote. You get the upside of built-in battery and the peace of mind w…
> iPhones do have replaceable batteries, only not DIY It really is DIY. There are thousands of guide that can be followed successfully.
It's pretty tricky though, and even for a tinkerer it's not trivial.
I changed screens, home buttons etc, and find that much easier than changing batteries. I haven't failed to replace a screen on neither the 5 or the 6, but I failed with a battery on the 6, due to broken battery tab and not enough guts to heat/bend it out (I left it for someone else).
Now, I completely agree with the design decisions of the iPhone. The completely sealed body is great for water resistance and having the battery replaced is still pretty cheap, especially if you use (I usually just let someone replace with a 3rd party battery for cheap, as this usually takes place after warranty expired).
The battery needs to have extra space (or bad things will happen) so it effectively has to be fixed on one side inside the body. Gluing it is a pretty cheap solution to that problem.
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a bigger battery? My primary criterion with each iPhone purchase is which has longest battery life.
Apple has decided that people want to buy razorthin phones and there is just not way to fit a large battery in there. I wish there were phones built like the old IBM thinkpads. Bulky, square, ugly but also indestructible and fully user servicable with replaceable batteries.
If the battery capcity could be increased to the point where I didn't need to worry about charging it every day (night), like an old feature phone, then I would see the point. Otherwise I'm agreeing with apple - let's make the hardware faster and the screen brighter instead and just make sure the battery lasts a whole day.
Having e.g. 50% more battery wouldn't do anything for me. It would save me that one day per year when I'm using a ton of GPS/video and actually run out of battery before I go to bed, but that's about it. I'd still have to remember to charge it every night.
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a bigger battery? My primary criterion with each iPhone purchase is which has longest battery life.
Or a battery that can be replaced.
It's replacable, either DIY if you tinker for I wouldn't want to have a user replacable battery behind a hatch if it made the phone worse in any way (less water sealed, less sturdy etc).
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think out of the two options, Apple picked the far more deceptive one, or at least the one that will be perceived to be deceptive (which IMO is the same thing). Few people would be surprised that batteries degrade over time, eventually causing noticeable drops in battery life, many people seem surprised that performance is intentionally and artificially reduced over time.
No. People are generally not educated enough about electronics to understand that batteries degrade over time. The most common way this manifests is “this phone sucks the battery dies in 10 minutes zomg I’ll never buy x phone again!”. Your phone battery has been abused for years and you expect it to hold a charge?! It’s a much much better decision to slow it down than let the phone die.
>No. People are generally not educated enough about electronics to understand that batteries degrade over time. The most common way this manifests is “this phone sucks the battery dies in 10 minutes zomg I’ll never buy x phone again!”.
This would be a non educated (and possibly excessive) reaction, but - given the success of the iPhone - what happens in reality is that another (still non educated and still excessive) reaction happens:
“this phone sucks the battery dies in 10 minutes zomg I’ll go and buy the new x phone!”.
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#186I have a question. Didn't read the article. Does the phones performance pick back up if you plug it in, regardless of the battery?
I didn't the article but probably.
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing you've expressed is an effective counterclaim to the assertion that Apple chose a more deceptive route to dealing with the inevitable degradation of batteries in its devices. On balance, the expected behavior for an aging phone is to suffer from decreased battery life as total battery cycles increase. Apple instead has chosen to decrease system performance to hide diminished battery life, and failed to disclo…
For people familiar with electronics yes. Most people don’t understand this and think the phone is a cheap piece of crap if the battery starts dying early.
I highly doubt this, devices with batteries are near ubiquitous in many places and have been for decades now. "Electronics" knowledge or not, people have used batteries and will have noticed that over time its life goes down.
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#188iPhone performance degrades when new iPhones hit the market. xD
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#189Can someone explain to me why (outside of this one issue) phones get so slow over time? As a professional programmer I though I understood computers but I clearly don't. What's going on my phone that it grinds to a halt? Why does a factory reset sometimes help, but sometimes not? It can't just be that the workloads are more resource intensive. If I go get an old tablet it will take 5x as long to load google.com as th…
If you load the exact same OS and the exact same browser+page, or the exact same app (same version) then if it's slower it's hardware, such as battery (which is described in the article).
If you take your 5yo tablet and load the 5years younger OS, a 5years younger app or a 5 year younger version of google, those are designed to be "usable" on modern hardware, and "just bearable" on your older hardware. So it's not apples to apples then. You are running an app (or page) that is much much fatter. And yes it even applies to the google front page.
Re: iPhone Performance Degrades as Battery Ages
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a bigger battery? My primary criterion with each iPhone purchase is which has longest battery life.
Apple has decided that people want to buy razorthin phones and there is just not way to fit a large battery in there. I wish there were phones built like the old IBM thinkpads. Bulky, square, ugly but also indestructible and fully user servicable with replaceable batteries.
*current thinkpads can also still do this.
I switched from a MBP to a ThinkPad because of Apple's decisions with product design; performance sacrificed for purely aesthetic reasons.