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Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by youou »

interfixus wrote: post #134
acobster wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uMatrix is also great. It does a lot of the same things NoScript does, but at a greater granularity. I still use NoScript for its XSS protection features but have the main JS-blocking feature disabled because it's redundant.

It is. It does. uMatrix is probably not for the average user out there, but personally, I won't go anywhere on the web without it these days. Keep the blacklists up to date, and have scripting completely off by default. You get granular control on a wholly different levet than offered by NoScript (which I really no longer see a need for).

>have scripting completely off by default

Does this mean you have the "scripts" column red and turn them on for individual sites?

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by privacywall »

I built PrivacyWall to block all Firefox telemetry urls. It may make your browsing even faster since it blocks all unwanted data collection that happens in the background at the OS level. That means it is more effective than an extension running on top of Firefox, and Firefox cannot surreptitiously send data without your knowledge anymore. If you are working on sensitive projects and this is something you are worried about, I am making it available for free for non-commercial users at http://www.privacywall.org

I received alot of emails from loyal Firefox users telling me they are worried about their privacy when using Firefox 57 after the Looking Glass debacle, so I decided to make it available for free. If there are tracking domains sites you you think should be blocked due to suspicious behavior, tell me the urls and I will evaluate for inclusion. Please feel free to submit it as a comment to this thread or submit it using the form submission field on the PrivacyWall homepage.

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by edjw »

youou wrote: post #160
ryandrake wrote: post #151

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An even better approach is to block all ad-serving domains at the DNS layer. If you associate with my home access point and use my DNS cache, you don't get ads period, and you don't have to install an ad blocker or lift a finger.

Can you explain how you do that?

> Can you explain how you do that?

Probably Pi-Hole running on. Raspberry Pi. https://pi-hole.net

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by interfixus »

youou wrote: post #161
interfixus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. It does. uMatrix is probably not for the average user out there, but personally, I won't go anywhere on the web without it these days. Keep the blacklists up to date, and have scripting completely off by default. You get granular control on a wholly different levet than offered by NoScript (which I really no longer see a need for).

>have scripting completely off by default Does this mean you have the "scripts" column red and turn them on for individual sites?

That is what it means, yes. And click them on as needed, first local scripts, and then various external ones if that's not enough. Can be a bit of a hassle for a while, but once you get permanent rulesets established for sites you frequent and more or less trust, it works like a dream. I hardly ever see an ad, and various sniffer-services (or "analytics") must somehow learn to live without a lot my traffic data.

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by Sammi »

cabaalis wrote: post #133
Feniks wrote: post #125

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I block ads, analytics and 3rd party fonts. Almost every site works just fine.

As I'm sure you're aware, many content creators that you are reading the work of fund their efforts via ads. I think this is a happy medium to attempt to improve performance of these pages without denying them compensation.

If the ads didn't feel abusive then I might feel bad. But they do.

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by Vinnl »

privacywall wrote: post #162

I built PrivacyWall to block all Firefox telemetry urls. It may make your browsing even faster since it blocks all unwanted data collection that happens in the background at the OS level. That means it is more effective than an extension running on top of Firefox, and Firefox cannot surreptitiously send data without your knowledge anymore. If you are working on sensitive projects and this is something you are worried…

Fun fact: you can turn off telemetry yourself in Firefox. And it's open source, so you (or someone else) can check that it's actually off.

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by Vinnl »

feelin_googley wrote: post #155

This raises the question: Why delay instead of block? Assumption is that user wants page to load faster but does not object to tracking . What if user wants page to load faster and objects to tracking? Source of Firefox tracking protection is list at disconnect.me? credit: eco https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15964393 Basic gethostbyname()->HOSTS file blocking: #!/bin/sh exec curl https://disconnect.me/trackerpro…

Blocking is already supported: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/tracking-protection#w_how-to-...

Mozilla doesn't want to enable it by default because it is the funding model of the web, and no viable alternative funding model for most of the web's content has arrived yet. (At least, that's the public statement. I don't know if e.g. potential lawsuits, etc. also play a role.)

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by Vinnl »

robszumski wrote: post #142
anfedorov wrote: post #126

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Here it is newline-separated in case you want to import it into the Adblock DNS filter for iOS: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anfedorov/1fa7dc8871b20da...

Is there any way you can make this work for Chrome on iOS?

I don't think Chrome supports extensions on mobile, but Firefox does, so you could try that if you really want an adblocker.

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by icebraining »

privacywall wrote: post #162

I built PrivacyWall to block all Firefox telemetry urls. It may make your browsing even faster since it blocks all unwanted data collection that happens in the background at the OS level. That means it is more effective than an extension running on top of Firefox, and Firefox cannot surreptitiously send data without your knowledge anymore. If you are working on sensitive projects and this is something you are worried…

So if I'm worried about tracking, I should install some closed-source binary from a site which has no identifiable information so it can control all connections on my computer?

Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains

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Post by deltaprotocol »

youou wrote: post #161
interfixus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. It does. uMatrix is probably not for the average user out there, but personally, I won't go anywhere on the web without it these days. Keep the blacklists up to date, and have scripting completely off by default. You get granular control on a wholly different levet than offered by NoScript (which I really no longer see a need for).

>have scripting completely off by default Does this mean you have the "scripts" column red and turn them on for individual sites?

Not parent but probably yes. That's how I roll as well.
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