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Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by ausjke »

KajMagnus wrote: post #103
ausjke wrote: post #76

I actually like hacknews' comment style the most, neat and simple, good enough for talks, no images and no videos etc too. wish there are some light-weight forum code that is nodejs based, nodebb is a little heavy, and I don't really enjoy discourse's UI.

Maybe you'd like EffectiveDiscussions — it's light weight, client side, 140 kb js (but not server side). It's inspired by Hacker News and Reddit, as you can see on this demo page: https://insightful.demo.ed.community/-11/my-son-was-sent-hom... + improvements about two things here at HN that make me annoyed :-P https://www.effectivediscussions.org/-32/how-hacker-news-can...

looks very interesting, checking it out...

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by KajMagnus »

gka wrote: post #108
KajMagnus wrote: post #99

Setting up a server and installing commenting software, and configuring OpenAuth etc login takes some time. If you want to skip all that, you can use Effective Discussions embedded comments, demo: https://www.kajmagnus.blog/new-embedded-comments . It's open source ( https://github.com/debiki/ed-server , I'm developing it), no ads, and has the features Schnack has (notifications via email) and some unique things peopl…

I wouldn’t exactly call 140k „lightweight“ ;-)

I suppose it depends on with what one compares. Compared with Disqus, which is, according to the article, about 750 kb, then, light-weigth. Compared with Schnack, then not light-weight. So, maybe both "yes" and "no" makes sense.

Anyway it loads quickly on my mobile phone (before I've scrolled down to the blog comments if I start scrolling directly) — maybe that's what matters, anything else people aren't going to notice anyway. ... Hmm unless they're on a slow 3G connection, then would be good if I could remove more js.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by hmans »

ploggingdev wrote: post #97
md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

There's a standard for that called Webmention, but it's not widely used : https://indieweb.org/Webmention You can see it in action on this page : https://aaronparecki.com/oauth-2-simplified/

And there's a beautiful little tool named Bridgy that can pull replies/mentions off Twitter and Facebook and turn them into Indieweb-able entities. It's all really quite great, but of course assumes the terrible, terrible inconvenience of running your own website.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by corobo »

modinfo wrote: post #20

A privacy-focused Disqus alternative https://github.com/adtac/commento

Honestly I think that project's using a sledgehammer to hit nails.

> There won't be an analytics dashboard with a hundred different pie charts telling you every which way the user interacted with the comments box. (There will be a moderation dashboard in the future, however.)

> Commento is not a centralized multi-site commenting system. It's simply impossible to be that and not have some sort of tracking.

I want this sort of thing. My clients want this sort of thing. What we don't want is Disqus or whoever it was that just bought them being in control of the analytics, being in control of the comments, being able to willy nilly chuck ads into the mix, being able to go bust without warning and lose all of the data

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by Viper007Bond »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #46
Viper007Bond wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> definitely have no interest whatsoever in spending any more time doing DevOps for the blog. Honestly that's why I use a managed blogging host. I have better things to do with my time, such as writing content.

Yeah I realized that for the level of readership my blog has, even the time I put in writing a post is probably not worth it, let alone writing template files and figuring out the idiosyncrasies of the templating tool of the day (which almost always has negligible documentation)

You gotta start somewhere. Write quality content and the viewers will hopefully come.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by KajMagnus »

hmans wrote: post #113
ploggingdev wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a standard for that called Webmention, but it's not widely used : https://indieweb.org/Webmention You can see it in action on this page : https://aaronparecki.com/oauth-2-simplified/

And there's a beautiful little tool named Bridgy that can pull replies/mentions off Twitter and Facebook and turn them into Indieweb-able entities. It's all really quite great, but of course assumes the terrible, terrible inconvenience of running your own website.

Bridgy is only able to see the comments one's social media account, like one's Facebook account, gets notified about, right? If some to me complete strangers start talking on FB about a post I made, I won't get to know about that via Bridgy? But if some friends of mine, whose comments my FB connected Bridgy account gets notified about, start talking about the blog post, Bridgy detects that?

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by JeanMarcS »

gka wrote: post #109
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the motivation for using a static site (especially GitHub Pages) is to eliminate the time, energy and cost of doing DevOps. Going full DevOps just for blog comments is not great ROI. If I couldn't use Disqus/FB Comments and was forced to self-host my own blog comments on my static blog, I'd just remove blog comments altogether.

Part of the motivation for running your own static blog engine (as opposed to Medium) is that you believe in a decentralized internet. I used to run my own Wordpress server for a decade before I gave up dealing with the security flaws and moved to a static blog. Sure, I could’ve just live without comments, but that’s again forcing the discussion into other „centralized“ communities like Twitter or Facebook. So I thre…

I wanted to do something like that for my static blog (and contact form for my company site), and couldn’ Find the time, so thanks to you for making this !

I’ll give it a try during holidays.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by dredmorbius »

eref wrote: post #65
md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

For me on Firefox on macOS that is just a couple of key strokes away: cmd-l cmd-c ctrl-a r u r l : cmd-t cmd-v ctrl-a h n I have set up `r` as keyword to search on Reddit and `hn` to search on Hacker News [1]. `url:` is the Reddit keyword to search in the url field of the items. (In Firefox, you can right click any search field and add a keyword bookmark for it.) [1] https://hn.algolia.com

DDG (from the browser navbar) functions in much the same way.

!hn => hacker news

!se => stack exchange

!w => wikipedia

!r => reddit

(Not all of these are forums, natch.)

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