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Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Excuse me, I am generally a naive person. But what is your take on this video? Do you think this is legitimate? Do you think this “proves ” there are UFOs? Or this could be just a strategy for another goal? For example, somebody mentioned they are trying hard to redirect attention from something else? Update: I put the word prove in quotations.

The video quality is terrible, so who knows, but I've never seen any UFO footage that had any kind of decent quality video. Hell, a 2004 camera phone would be almost as good as this video. Yes, yes, its in the dark and moving fast and whatnot, but I thought that the military would have had much better imaging tech, even back in 2004, than this grainy low res thing. May as well be someones camcorder.

The only thing it has going for it, in my opinion, is that the pilots would have been pretty used to seeing stuff in their cameras and would know the difference between something ordinary and something extraordinary. I do think its more likely that it was some military test plane than something extraterrestrial though, personally.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

#32

Keep in mind one branch of the military was successfully flying this in 1977: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Ha... (a picture of Have Blue - the precursor to the stealth fighter. It defiantly looks like something out of this world to the eyes of someone in 1977)

And then there's stuff like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar So, really, its likely that any UFO is military in nature, rather than extraterrestrial.

This is a common retort (in my view, to make people feel better and not have to consider the implications otherwise) -- here's the pentagon official in charge of the program stating unequivocally that these are almost certainly not related to any aircraft in any national inventory

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/19/571868263/secret-program-at-t...

The thing that makes these interesting is the fact that they exhibit aeronautic behavior, while tracked by multiple computers and witnesses, that is not physically possible with known methods of propulsion, not because they look like shiny discs.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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I'm sold on the whole UFO cover-up thing. If you peel back the social ridicule (very successfully induced by US government collaboration with Hollywood) and consider the huge number of circumstantial reports from across the military and non-military it seems pretty clear there's stuff in the skies of non-human origin. Historical art suggests they've been flying for centuries.

There's also the publicly acknowledged reports of NASA and various governments/military conducting investigations and spending millions of dollars in the process.

Historically it would have been politically difficult for governments to come out and admit this - and when they did (like after Roswell) it was quickly retracted.

Peel back the social conditioning and reconsider the likelihood of this given all the reports.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Well, I mean, it's a flying object, and they clearly can't identify it, so it's not a "possible" UFO, it's the literal definition of a UFO.

Yeah, pet peeve of mine. The word "possible" was added inappropriately. They are absolutely sure, already, that it's a UFO. Which isn't saying much, and deliberately so. It's the first and vaguest thing they call it. If they ever found out what it was, they would stop calling it a UFO. So a more accurate title, if you're optimistic about it being some particular (identified) thing, such as (I presume) alien spacecraft, would be "Possible Non-UFO Spotted by US Fighters."

Misspelled "Camera" also.

Edit: Well this comment is obsolete now that they updated the title. Good work!

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then there's stuff like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar So, really, its likely that any UFO is military in nature, rather than extraterrestrial.

This is a common retort (in my view, to make people feel better and not have to consider the implications otherwise) -- here's the pentagon official in charge of the program stating unequivocally that these are almost certainly not related to any aircraft in any national inventory https://www.npr.org/2017/12/19/571868263/secret-program-at-t... The thing that makes these interesting is the fact that they exhibit aeron…

Why would he necessarily know the complete inventory? Presumably there are top secret programs where it's all very much a need to know basis.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Entertaining, almost convincing. I want to believe.

However we know it is one of...

* A hoax, like hundreds of other videos of UFO sightings.

* One branch of the military testing a piece of equipment another branch is not able to identify.

* A video showing an actual space craft built by aliens from another planet.

Consider which of these is most likely and which is least likely. Consider also that extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary evidence.

I'm surprised BBC picked this up.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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At first I thought it was a spec of dirt stuck on the window, because it kept its position constant relative to the moving airplane. But then when it twisted, I had to give up that explanation.

Camera could be gimbal mounted, behind a fixed glass dome - if the speck is on the dome and the camera gimbal moves, it would appear like "the UFO" rotating.

The pilot was witnessing it too
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