WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
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Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#2> “The only way to refuse the data transfer for “business intelligence” purpose is to uninstall the application,” the CNIL said in a statement.
I mean, Facebook et al are a nightmare, but doesn't this statement apply to almost every app?
Nevertheless, I'm sure Facebook is pretty annoyed right now, seeing as their main business goal seems to be "hoard all the data".
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#3» The CNIL said it had repeatedly asked WhatsApp to provide a sample of French users’ data transferred to Facebook but the company had explained it could not do so as it is located in the United States and “it considers that it is only subject to the legislation of this country.” «
That's a very interesting quote from Facebook, and explains why the GDPR has a special section explaining that it also applies to foreign companies that process data of EU citizen.
In general, Facebook is trying to set a dangerous precedent here. A company operating in our countries, taking our data, owning property in our countries, having employees in our countries, owning critical infrastructure in our countries (WhatsApp has basically replaced SMS and other messaging infrastructure), yet refusing to acknowledge the laws of the countries they operate in.
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#4Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share?
I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#5Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?
The who-spoke-to-whom-and-when data is... well certainly not nothing. Quite powerful, I'd think.
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#6Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?
They say that they collect the following: "We collect device-specific information when you install, access, or use our Services. This includes information such as hardware model, operating system information, browser information, IP address, mobile network information including phone number, and device identifiers. We collect device location information if you use our location features, such as when you choose to share your location with your contacts, view locations nearby or those others have shared with you, and the like, and for diagnostics and troubleshooting purposes such as if you are having trouble with our app’s location features."
The IP-Adress together with the facebook plugins on many websites allow lots of tracking.
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#7> “The only way to refuse the data transfer for “business intelligence” purpose is to uninstall the application,” the CNIL said in a statement. I mean, Facebook et al are a nightmare, but doesn't this statement apply to almost every app? Nevertheless, I'm sure Facebook is pretty annoyed right now, seeing as their main business goal seems to be "hoard all the data".
Well with WhatsApp being so popular in Europe it is almost impossible to uninstall it.
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#8Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?
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Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#9I wonder what the legal argument is behind this ruling. If one newspaper acquired another, couldn't the parent then market to the subsidiary's subscribers even if they continued to operate separately? The parent now owns everything anyway.
Re: WhatsApp told to stop sharing user data with Facebook by French authorities
#10Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?
They can presumably not share the content of the messages, but they could share the metadata around them. Who you are connected to, how often you contact them, what time of day, potentially some location information, how long you spend in the app...