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Re: The science that’s never been cited

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> “Lack of citation cannot be interpreted as meaning articles are useless or valueless,” says David Pendlebury, a senior citations analyst at Clarivate. On the other hand, presence of citation can not be interpreted as meaning articles are useful or valuable. For one, there could be chains of useless and valueless papers citing each other.

Striking similarity to PageRank and Link Farms.

PageRank was initially invented for scientific publications and later applied to web sites.

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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post #20

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The squirrel cares.

The squirrel is pretty unlikely to care about the relative warmth of its tail vs other tails. I tried to ask my mother once what women typically considered to be the dimensions of female attractiveness (e.g. breast size is something people commonly care about, while toe length isn't). Instead I got an answer consisting of a list of things a woman trying to be attractive would do before appearing in a public place. I…

besides makeup, you mean?

remember, you're not looking at faces through an accurate depth camera, you're inferring facial geometry through color vision.

mascara draws attention to the eyes, away from the chin. eye shadow provides the illusion of depth, which, combined with subtle application of blush or contouring foundation, totally changes the shape you see.

you're really only inferring an oval from a small handful of points. you can control those points by accenting and concealing.

not to mention hairstyles! bangs! glasses! rhinoplasty!

but it's a time and money sink, and we're increasingly okay with our faces as they are.

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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While I sympathize with your sentiment - indeed much research is done that is incremental, not groundbreaking - your comment does not accurately describe academic research. Full-time scientist positions, whether in academia or elsewhere, are competitive in the extreme. Even with tenure protections, if your hypothetical researcher does not generate impactful research, he or she could expect to be out of a job in relat…

For some who may be less familiar, PI = Principal Investigator. This is how a receiver of a grant is referred to. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal_investigator

Finally, and thank you!

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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10% of papers being completely uncited is a little misleading. There is a long tail of papers with 1 or 2 citations that were hardly read beyond the abstract and only cited to up a paper's number of references and had a few good keywords. That research is effectively uncited. The reason for this isn't really surprising: Most research isn't that groundbreaking. Most research is done because if you don't produce a pape…

I think you hit an interesting example.

What if there was a significant difference in insulating properties of squirrel tails? That could lead to new ways of making insulating fabrics.

Quite a few of my research papers look like "we investigated reasonable question X. The answer turned out to be boring".

Does that mean I shouldn't have done the work? We didn't know the answer would be boring in advance. Should I not publish? Then someone else might repeat the work.

I think, if anything, science needs to publish more boring negative results, to stop people repeating the same boring experiments and not publishing.

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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post #9

10% of papers being completely uncited is a little misleading. There is a long tail of papers with 1 or 2 citations that were hardly read beyond the abstract and only cited to up a paper's number of references and had a few good keywords. That research is effectively uncited. The reason for this isn't really surprising: Most research isn't that groundbreaking. Most research is done because if you don't produce a pape…

To be honest, now that you mentioned this, I'm really curious how warm a squirrel's tail is.

Me too. I discovered this paper: "Feeling the heat: Ground squirrels heat their tails to discourage rattlesnake attack" [0] which seems interesting and sort of relevant. It also turns out to have been cited only once so far. [1]

0. http://www.pnas.org/content/104/36/14177

1. http://www.pnas.org/cgi/crossref-forward-links/104/36/14177

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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post #27

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If he actually has a journal and does that, he's nothing more than a con artist.

Hehe yes, that's the general conclusion. I'm not sure if I should name names. (Ah well) The guy I'm talking about is Azlan Iqbal, a Malaysian CS professor. I know him as the writer of numerous wacky articles on ChessBase (leading chess news site) about his chess+computer studies. People criticize his shoddy work in the comments, and he says, nay, jeers they're not qualified to judge because they didn't read his uni t…

> people like this

Boris Stilman [0], but Stilman is not worse than Iqbal.

[0] http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/Engineering/resea...

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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The squirrel is pretty unlikely to care about the relative warmth of its tail vs other tails. I tried to ask my mother once what women typically considered to be the dimensions of female attractiveness (e.g. breast size is something people commonly care about, while toe length isn't). Instead I got an answer consisting of a list of things a woman trying to be attractive would do before appearing in a public place. I…

besides makeup, you mean? remember, you're not looking at faces through an accurate depth camera, you're inferring facial geometry through color vision. mascara draws attention to the eyes, away from the chin. eye shadow provides the illusion of depth, which, combined with subtle application of blush or contouring foundation, totally changes the shape you see. you're really only inferring an oval from a small handful…

You get to look at someone's face from many different angles while it moves around. The "accurate depth camera" model is more accurate than the "it's an optical illusion" model.

Surgery is indeed a way to alter your facial features, but it's more intrusive than most.

Re: The science that’s never been cited

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post #41

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Striking similarity to PageRank and Link Farms.

PageRank was initially invented for scientific publications and later applied to web sites.

Wow, that’s amazing to know - thanks for sharing!!
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