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Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#71

It is an interesting comment on the state of commenting. Gardening the comments section is a lot of work and not something people want to spend their time on (the Blekko blog would get hundreds of spam comment attempts every day!). That makes me wonder if there is also an opportunity for a 'meta comment' section which pulls comments from web sites like HN, Reddit, or Slashdot and puts them below the blog / article th…

I've been considering doing a static/semi-static blog system which just notifies the user of discussions on referring sites, and makes it easy to link to and excerpt interesting discussion. Possibly even gives an easy way to submit links to start discussion on preferred sites.

That way, everything displayed on your blog is explicitly added there by the author, but once an interesting discussion has started you can easily direct users to it and they can participate under moderation rules of whatever forum that is.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#72
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are happy with Gmail owning all your emails then?

I'm not talking about ownership, I'm talking about storage of data. I wouldn't be happy if Google owned my emails, but I'm happy they store them so that I don't have to run a server in my kitchen.

We were talking about ownership...

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#73
post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

It often breaks with different query parameters for example on YouTube videos, but I just created a couple of bookmarklets.

hn:

  javascript:window.location.href='https://hn.algolia.com?query='+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href)%20+%20'&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story'
reddit:

  javascript:(function()%7Bwindow.location.href%20%3D%20%22https%3A%2F%2Freddit.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Durl%3A%22%20%2B%20encodeURIComponent(window.location.href)%7D)()

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#74
post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

>Is there a good reason why online discourse is still fragmented

Good reason? I don't know, probably only because no single platform has become ubiquitous. Of course, as soon as that happens we'll be seeing a lot of comments here about how it's terrible that online discourse is centralized and that people should abstain from using .

In thinking some more, I prefer to spend my time here as opposed to reddit because the level of discourse is just much higher. Can you imagine sifting through potentially _millions_ of comments, many of which are of youtube level quality? Maybe fragmentation is ok here.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developer with The Coral Project here. Schnack seems to provide a simple solution to the "let us put some comments on the site" in a very simple and pleasantly small package. (Like seriously small, we're jealous of those numbers :)) Talk on the other hand provides a full admin panel for moderators, a robust plugin system for configuring every part of the experience. Admittedly, not every small blog is going to need a…

I just learned about The Coral Project from this thread... From the site, Ask and Talk seem to be aimed exclusively at News Sites (Online Journalism.) What's your Team's take on using Talk/Ask for other purposes like Blogs or community sites for companies?

You can certainly use the tools for anything you like! We have been focused on working with newsrooms, where we feel we'll make the most impact. You can use the Ask tool to build a form, or Talk to power your comment space.

Once we reach better adoption, and we have seen quite the adoption (just today The Intercept launched[0]), we'll be able to focus on improving the landscape further.

[0]: https://theintercept.com/2017/12/18/comments-coral-project/

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#76
I actually like hacknews' comment style the most, neat and simple, good enough for talks, no images and no videos etc too.

wish there are some light-weight forum code that is nodejs based, nodebb is a little heavy, and I don't really enjoy discourse's UI.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#77
post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

There's a W3C Web standard that is supposed to address this (Annotations), but I don't think it has gotten much traction yet: https://web.hypothes.is/blog/annotation-is-now-a-web-standar...

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#78
post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

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Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#79
first off , if you turn off ads on disqus there are no 3rd party requests. maybe that will change with the new owners but it's disingenuous to claim disqus is doing something bad here when there's an option to turn it off.

Otherwise the number one reason I stated using disqus is spam. I wrote my own blogging and comment system in 2000. When that got spammed I switched to WordPress around 2008. Even with their anti-spam features I got tons of comment spam. I switched to disqus many years ago and I think I've had no more than 2 spam comments per year since.

Disqus benefits from being everywhere in that it can see a bad actor and prevent them from being bad everywhere else. How will this system handle that?

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume it’s like snack, but with an initial sh sound. And I don’t think software projects with inscrutable names are a new thing. I still have no idea how to pronounce “PostgreSQL”, for instance.

I have always said Post-gres-Q-L which is probably wrong but it's too late to change now. I'm committed.

That is the right way to say it.

It was originally just named Postgres, as in Post Ingres, because it evolved from the Ingres database project.

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