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Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by grzm »

justizin wrote: post #42
nkkollaw wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? You leave a comment on a website, the websites stores it, it's the websites data.

It's your data and the website has a responsibility to steward it.

I can understand where you're coming from, in that you authored the data. However, that's different from ownership. That's determined by the terms of service of the website. If you want to retain full ownership of the content, in some (many?) cases you can only do so by not commenting on their site (or service used by the site), but rather commenting on a site you control. While some people may have an expectation that the site has a responsibility to steward the content provided by users, and I think that's a laudable goal, at the end of the day that is determined by the terms of service.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by noncoml »

nkkollaw wrote: post #38
noncoml wrote: post #36

"lack of control on our own data (the comments, in this case)" That's what worries me about every single website out there. Suddenly they consider users' comments "their own data"

Why not? You leave a comment on a website, the websites stores it, it's the websites data.

You are happy with Gmail owning all your emails then?

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by NetOpWibby »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #27

Another thread on the front page right now is talking about how it's very difficult to get views on your blogs now. And I've felt the same. 5-10 years ago I used to get 2-3 digit views on my posts. And I used to use Wordpress / Blogger and the like. Then, when it became fashionable, I spent a lot of time (at least 20-30 hrs, and mind you this was not the geeky kind of work, it was like refactoring code using just gre…

For some reason, I'm getting 30+ hits a day on my blog (from Russia) for a post I made about dealing with APFS issues. It's a tutorial so there's that.

I used to use static generators but I like what I can do with Express more. I now have a custom built static site generator based on Express.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by drdrey »

misnamed wrote: post #43

Why not remove comments entirely? Most people engage on secondary platforms (twitter, facebook) anyway, and most comments are garbage in my experience. Ironically, while trying to post this comment I got ... Bad gateway: The web server reported a bad gateway error.

I think disabling blog comments makes sense these days. In my previous experience managing a wordpress blog, 90% of comments were garbage and the most meaningful discussions happened on platforms where discussions are a natural fit (reddit, HN, Twitter)

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by NetOpWibby »

Cyberdog wrote: post #2

So in order to use this, you need to host a new Node app and SQLite database on your server. Also, things like spam control are now back on you. So why not just use a CMS or blog engine which supports traditional server-side comments? I suppose there is a case if you're hosting static HTML pages but still want them to be commentable, but how many people are doing that? I don't get the use case for this.

For people who write their own CMSes (like myself), this is hella useful. I look forward to adding this to my blog once more features get added, although I'd probably switch the database to MongoDB.

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Post by robotbikes »

md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

Part of the problem is the walled garden affect of Facebook, is there a public API that provides you with links to public posts about a piece of content ? I doubt it, although Facebook uses this internally to show me random strangers blathering about various news stories. Twitter might be easier but still not sure if there is something that an API can query to find links to a certain article or piece. I remember back in blogging days there was a ping back functionality that was supposed to do something like this.

Usually if I find something interesting in the tech sphere I just find people commenting about it on Hacker News and it's a tight but broad enough community to get good discussion.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by guelo »

md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

Because the web has devolved into a bunch of walled gardens that try to sell their user bases to advertisers.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by ehnto »

md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

Discourse is fragmented because there are dozens of different communities that like to talk amongst themselves. I think that's fine. I don't always want to be talking on an internet megaphone and I definitely don't want to be listening to one all the time.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by nekopa »

justizin wrote: post #41
koko775 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been running WordPress with WordFence, Akismet antispam, and CloudFlare on a site that gets a sizable amount of traffic. No hacks yet - it's not the same insecure mess it was a decade ago.

How often do you upgrade it, and ... is your total effort suitable for a small / personal blog?

Not who you were replying to, but I helped a Luddite friend set up a wp blog 7 years ago and we had 1 minor hack about 6 years ago. It updates itself automatically so haven't really had to do much work with it.

Re: Moving from Disqus to Schnack

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Post by styfle »

md224 wrote: post #49

A general observation about online comments: when I read an article online and want to know what other people are saying about it, I have no easy & simple way to do so. If your blog has a comments section, that's great, but what about all the other platforms that people discuss things on? (Twitter and Reddit [and of course HN!] come to mind.) I would love to see a comments system that provided insight into commentary…

I cross post to medium from my blog. I figure if people want to comment, they can do it there. Here's an example of the original[0] and the copy[1].

[0]: https://www.ceriously.com/blog/post.php?id=2017-10-16-es6-mo...

[1]: https://medium.com/@styfle/22969cd360f0/

Medium allows you to import pretty easily and sets the canonical URL so Google (hopefully) won't get confused with duplicate content.

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