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Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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> These days, the average British pour of wine is 250 milliliters, “larger than the mean capacity of wine glasses available in the 1980s,” writes Marteau. Wow that’s a big pour - you expect to get 4-5 glasses of wine out of a standard 750ml bottle, potentially a little more than that if you’re ordering by the glass in a restaurant.

Yeh, bet sensationalist.

Study actually refers to "wine is increasingly served in 250 mL servings" and "usually a 175 mL measure".

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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Why has no one mentioned that "wine" to a Brit in 1700 meant FORTIFIED wine like Port wine or Sherry (aka 18-20% alcohol instead of 11-15%)? The fortification of Port wine is legendarily attributed to both British tastes for sweet or "stalled mid fermentation by addition of spirits" wine, and the voyage by sea, in which normal wines suffered excessively from spoilage etc.

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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Flying a lot around Europe I'm always surprised by how full the British side of things fills a wineglass :-) 125 ml is normal in the majority of places, 180 ml is a British glass of wine. The article is from the UK...

But both 125 and 180 ml servings are considerably less than the size of the glass, so the article title is at best clickbaity. The glass got bigger but nobody is pouring 7x as much wine per serving as before.

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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> These days, the average British pour of wine is 250 milliliters, “larger than the mean capacity of wine glasses available in the 1980s,” writes Marteau. Wow that’s a big pour - you expect to get 4-5 glasses of wine out of a standard 750ml bottle, potentially a little more than that if you’re ordering by the glass in a restaurant.

The article misquotes its source. The study states "wine is increasingly served in 250 mL servings" (emphasis mine), not that the average pour size has become 250ml!

250ml is a typical carafe size. Carafes are a more common way to serve wine in Europe, compared to ordering two separate glasses.

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

#28

Why has no one mentioned that "wine" to a Brit in 1700 meant FORTIFIED wine like Port wine or Sherry (aka 18-20% alcohol instead of 11-15%)? The fortification of Port wine is legendarily attributed to both British tastes for sweet or "stalled mid fermentation by addition of spirits" wine, and the voyage by sea, in which normal wines suffered excessively from spoilage etc.

The world was never the same for me once I discovered madeira wine. All the richness of port with half the sweetness.

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

#29

Why has no one mentioned that "wine" to a Brit in 1700 meant FORTIFIED wine like Port wine or Sherry (aka 18-20% alcohol instead of 11-15%)? The fortification of Port wine is legendarily attributed to both British tastes for sweet or "stalled mid fermentation by addition of spirits" wine, and the voyage by sea, in which normal wines suffered excessively from spoilage etc.

This is what I thought. I regularly enjoy a "modern" glass of wine, but for port wine, even a full shot glass is too much for me. It's just so heavy and sweet. The glasses depicted in the article seem to hold exactly the amount of port I would be able to comfortably drink in 10-20 minutes.

Re: Since 1700, Wine Glasses Have Gotten 7 Times Bigger

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post #14

Back in the day a Royal Navy sailor's daily ration of beer was a gallon, or a half pint of 115 proof rum. I don't think the dainty wineglasses are a good indication of volume consumed.

OTOH, the phrase “drink like a sailor” for heavy consumption of alcohol exists for a reason; RN alcohol rations probably aren't a good indication of society-wide consumption patterns.
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