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Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

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Re: Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

#91
post #55

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Sorry, but what? What exchange is printing billions of $ of unbacked Bitcoins?

I didn't say they were.

How did you think your comment that "you would have to be nuts to short" on an article about shorting Bitcoins would be taken? Please explain how Tethers can be used to manipulate and increase Bitcoin price.

Re: Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

#92

You would have to be nuts to short when there's an exchange printing billions of dollars of unbacked tokens they can use to drive up the price at will. If you want to short cryptocurrency, short tethers.

It's $1.15b[1] and most likely to be the result of incoming USD wires. The Tether USD in circulation accounts for 0.36%[2] of the Bitcoin (BTC) market cap.

- [1] http://omniexplorer.info/ask.aspx?api=getpropertytotaltokens...

- [2] https://coinmarketcap.com/

Re: Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

#93
post #65

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He's right. It's Bitfinex and it's been going on for a while now. A ton of people have called them out and they've largely ignored everyone. They've promised an audit and no audit has materialized in the years since they've promised one. There's a fantastic anonymous twitter account that's been calling them out for months now and gathering pretty damning evidence: https://twitter.com/Bitfinexed

Bitfinex prints Tethers, not Bitcoins.

They make claims that Tether are 1:1 redeemable with USD.

Re: Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

#94
post #59

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What do you disagree with?

Something as simple as Apple shares doesn't follow your pattern.

its not my pattern. its just the way markets work. of course it applies to apple as well as any other asset class. its just a matter of your time horizon and time frames. in any stock or asset there is time to be bullish, there is time to be bearish and there is time when no position is a position as well.

Re: Bitcoin Climbs as Futures Debut Fails to Incite Attack by Shorts

#95

So what do you guys think of this? I believe all BTC trading spikes are driven by some of the existing owners swapping coins and cash every now and then to keep the trading volume high. It is in their best interest to get the prices bounce back higher whenever it goes down. Once the price is manipulated higher, they can sell and keep the cash when someone who thought BTC is the next "I-Dont-Know-What-It-Is-But-Its-Go…

Couldn't your theory be validated by seeing large sums repeatedly moving to or from the same wallet IDs?

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#96
post #33

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> That too late thing is coming sooner than later. Not saying it's not coming, but can you estimate the time frame? Otherwise, this statement basically contains zero information.

A month. Bitcoin has in the last few weeks become next to useless as a currency. 30+$ to get a trade executed within an hour is unacceptable. So it isn't currency anymore. It is now just an investment vehicle. Skyrocketing price + no underlying use/value means this looks more and more like a pyramid. When the pure investors start pulling out their profits (a monthly thing) only to find that more difficult than antici…

Also I’m afraid it will be hit harder than before this even begun, because now we know Bitcoin doesn’t scale.

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#97
post #35

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>why not just hold the real dollars? Some exchanges don't accept fiat, so if you want to trade USD/BTC you settle for USDT/BTC.

Do you know if any of these exchanges are part of the index CME uses?

Out of the constituent exchanges only Kraken has USDT markets. Though I am not sure if they have difficulties in cashing out USD or not.

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#98
post #59

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What do you disagree with?

When was the last time gold was traded for < $10? Not everything that goes up is surely to go down. At least not in a lifetime. Nobody really knows what's going to happen, that's market 101.

Everything goes to 0 eventually. The statement is true. Gold is obviously much less likely to go to 0 unless the human race is either on the brink of extinction or extinct, but when you're talking about stocks or currencies a huge percentage will go to zero in less than human lifespan.
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