I would love to the media look into how Israel got hundred of our politicians to do their bidding.
I doubt a Josh Rogin wouldn't write such an op-ed though.
How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
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Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
#92Foreign influence in congress may not be the biggest threat to Democracy, but it is one of my biggest pet peeves. A country has vastly greater resources that any other individual, business or entitity. A foreign country's intentions are also potentially far more nefarious than a company lobbying to make more profit in a capatilistic system or an individual wanting government policies to be shaped more according to hi…
The article bangs on about how China got a single US congressman. Israel has enormous influence over the whole of congress. http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2017/07/17/aipac-sti... Mearsheimer and Walt is still the big book on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Fore... The US give Israel billions of dollars in foreign aid every year. Allows them to disgregard UN resolutions an…
It's hard for major newspapers to publish critical articles on israel because of the israeli influence in news media. Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists.
Do you expect a Josh Rogin to write a critical article on israel? Do you really expect washington post to publish negative articles on israel?
The editor of washingtonpost is martin baron, a child of israeli immigrants to the US.
The guy who wrote the op-ed and the editor both have ties to israel. What are the chances of a negative article regarding israel?
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article bangs on about how China got a single US congressman. Israel has enormous influence over the whole of congress. http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2017/07/17/aipac-sti... Mearsheimer and Walt is still the big book on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Fore... The US give Israel billions of dollars in foreign aid every year. Allows them to disgregard UN resolutions an…
It's hard for major newspapers to publish critical articles on israel because of the israeli influence in news media. Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Do you expect a Josh Rogin to write a critical article on israel? Do you really expect washington post to publish negative articles on israel? The editor of washingtonpost is martin baron, a child of israeli immigrants to…
> Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists.
Uh, the Israeli news media is even more dominated by Jewish owners, investors, editors, and journalists (and caters to a more Jewish audience), and they have no problem ciriticizing the Israeli government from all imaginable sides.
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard for major newspapers to publish critical articles on israel because of the israeli influence in news media. Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Do you expect a Josh Rogin to write a critical article on israel? Do you really expect washington post to publish negative articles on israel? The editor of washingtonpost is martin baron, a child of israeli immigrants to…
> Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Uh, the Israeli news media is even more dominated by Jewish owners, investors, editors, and journalists (and caters to a more Jewish audience ), and they have no problem ciriticizing the Israeli government from all imaginable sides.
There is a big difference in the perception of internal versus external criticism.
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard for major newspapers to publish critical articles on israel because of the israeli influence in news media. Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Do you expect a Josh Rogin to write a critical article on israel? Do you really expect washington post to publish negative articles on israel? The editor of washingtonpost is martin baron, a child of israeli immigrants to…
> Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Uh, the Israeli news media is even more dominated by Jewish owners, investors, editors, and journalists (and caters to a more Jewish audience ), and they have no problem ciriticizing the Israeli government from all imaginable sides.
True, but irrelevant: the Israeli media doesn't have the problem of acquiring and maintaining support for a foreign country.
On the opposite, the fact that criticism towards Israeli policies is much more pronounced and direct inside Israeli media than it is in the media of a completely independent country, is a clear sign that the debate is artificially stifled.
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
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> Not to mention the amount of jewish owners, investors, editors and journalists. Uh, the Israeli news media is even more dominated by Jewish owners, investors, editors, and journalists (and caters to a more Jewish audience ), and they have no problem ciriticizing the Israeli government from all imaginable sides.
True, but irrelevant: the Israeli media doesn't have the problem of acquiring and maintaining support for a foreign country. On the opposite, the fact that criticism towards Israeli policies is much more pronounced and direct inside Israeli media than it is in the media of a completely independent country, is a clear sign that the debate is artificially stifled.
> On the opposite, the fact that criticism towards Israeli policies is much more pronounced and direct inside Israeli media than it is in the media of a completely independent country, is an obvious proof that the debate is artificially stifled.
But not support for the claims that the reason is Jewish actors in media rather than, say, a combination of a broad consensus on US geopolitical interests and widespread and deep bias against Arabs and Muslims in the US.
While criticism of Israel is muted in the US press, it isn't inversely correlated, AFAICT, with outlets that have Jewish investors, Jewish editors, or even with the particular piece being written by a Jewish journalist/columnist.
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>This kind of reminds me how in one of the Wikileak emails, Clinton removed a country from a list of human rights violators for a mere donation. This is just flat out wrong. There was a rumor going around that a donation got Algeria taken off of a list of state sponsors of terror. The problem is that it was never on that list in the first place.
That's pretty fucked up, http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/28/...
Politifacts is funded by the guys who fund hillary :/
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
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How many newspapers do you need to read in order to be well informed? I subscribe to two newspapers and a magazine. I don’t feel like adding more would give me additional value. Surely you wouldn’t feel the need to read every newspaper in existence to feel well informed. I encourage you to subscribe to one or two that you feel provide a valuable product to you.
If there was a way to get a single subscription for access to every article linked from HN (whether it be from NYT, WaPo, WSJ, or whatever) I might pay for that. I don't think most people read a newspaper front to back anymore.
“I want to buy some Lucky Charms but I only want to pay for the marshmallows because I don’t eat the other bits.”
“I want to rent this apartment but I don’t use the oven so I dont want to pay for that portion.”
“I want a whopper from BK on a bun from Mickey D’s, And I only want to pay for one burger with that combination.”
“I want iOS on my new Galaxy.”
I’m sorry for mocking you but I find your stipulation for paying for journalistic content absurd. However, this is not the first time I’ve heard similar conditions requested for things that are not the speaker’s to place conditions on. I’m wondering where this line of thinking comes from. I seem to hear it from the younger generation (20s/early 30s). (I’m not tying to be purposefully ageist or overgeneralize.)
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
#99China is an extremely interesting study in geopolitics. Nations should never be able to do this, rise in prominence completely unobjected. You see examples of this throughout history, whenever one nation starts to expand its power and influence, another nation or group of nations tends to deploy power to check the rise. Accession of new geopolitical powers is therefore an extremely rare event, a complete failure of t…
There are several reasons for it, including your nuclear weapons practical consideration. - The US allowed China into the WTO, urged by globalist corporations who thought it would be massively to their benefit. That was the spark that sent their economy skyrocketing. Their economy had been growing at a healthy clip, however immediately after joining the WTO it doubled in size in just five years from $1.4t to $2.8t. I…
These are really interesting points.
I'm not an expert but I'm not sure the last point is as simple.
- The US does use subversion to ferment political instability, more or less using the same channels it did to overthrow nationalist governments around the world like Chile, Guatemala, Iran etc. The CIA trained the previous Tibetan regimes' aristocrats in Colorado and paradropped them back in China for a failed guerrilla rebellion Bay of Pigs style. - The CIA/NED actively throws millions at insurrections in China such as in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Tibet etc. They're not hiding it in their website either. - The US may be less worried about China to start with since US military bases and its geopolitical allies surrounds China in every which possible (or relevant) way. China more or less does maritime trading at US's discretion. - Arguably, Nixon/US didn't exactly care about China more or less the same way the US didn't care about South Vietnamese market economy. Nixon personally just wanted to score a leverage on USSR. [https://books.google.com/books/about/Nixon_in_China.html?id=...] - US imperialism in China in the 19th century was fairly standard
Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding
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The article bangs on about how China got a single US congressman. Israel has enormous influence over the whole of congress. http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2017/07/17/aipac-sti... Mearsheimer and Walt is still the big book on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Fore... The US give Israel billions of dollars in foreign aid every year. Allows them to disgregard UN resolutions an…
Israel has never been a signatory to the NPT (unlike North Korea and Iran). As far as I understand they are under no obligations not to develop nuclear weapons technology and they do not have the right to help with civilian nuclear infrastructure programmes that signatories have.
Israel got its nukes with help from US, English and French scientists. Do not ever underestimate the level of guilt people have about the Holocaust. Nobody was ever prosecuted for leaking nuclear secrets to Israel.