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Because that would cost the companies more and they're happy to get away with paying less. It's really not a mystery.
I wish there was a list of Bay Area restaurants that don't require tipping. I discovered one last Friday and look forward to returning for the good food, service, and fair wages.
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#42Tipping is often associated with both corruption and racism: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/05/study... http://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic... I have actually almost entirely stopped using Uber after they made tipping part of the app. I've worked in a place with tipping, and my experience directly corroborates those links.
Tipping is part of Uber now? That was what I liked about it! Did they at least lower the base rate to compensate?
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#43I'm reminded of a family friend telling me a story about how last year they were on day trip somewhere and a power outage happened to occur in whatever one-shop town out in the boondocks they were visiting and only one old Grandma had cash to pay for a drink or snack while the power was out, everyone else basically had to starve through lunch waiting for the power to come back on.
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#44Maybe we should not have tips? There is no actual need or advantage to giving people tips, and there are plenty of countries where tipping is not common (including some where cash is still favored over electronic payments). Why not just pay people a fair wage that they can live on?
Because that would cost the companies more and they're happy to get away with paying less. It's really not a mystery.
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#45Tipping is often associated with both corruption and racism: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/05/study... http://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic... I have actually almost entirely stopped using Uber after they made tipping part of the app. I've worked in a place with tipping, and my experience directly corroborates those links.
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Because that would cost the companies more and they're happy to get away with paying less. It's really not a mystery.
In the US, employees must still be paid minimum wage. Depending on the state, an employer may count tips toward this amount. If an employee reports $0 in tips, the employer must pay them $7.25/hr. While I would like to believe that what you say is true, I find it hard to be true. I think the bigger issues are at play whether it's is the fact that minimum wages need to be adjusted, a more modern solution is needed to…
However, I'd like to start with two labor patches (in the same set).
1) Pro-rate all benefits (with 3/4ths of median 'full time' work hours as full time).
2) Eliminate that tip as part of wage 'loophole'.
Tips should still be allowed, but they should be for truly exceptional things, and not a hidden cost of buying something.Re: Casualties of the Cashless Society: Those Who Get Seasonal Tips
#47I've noticed a big drop in panhandlers in cities, recently. Nobody even has cash any more. I wonder what they've been doing instead?
Probably been chased to other locations. A lot of municipalities have made pan handling a nuisance crime.
I'm still for localities experimenting with what the most effective use of those funds are, but when it's cheaper to ship the problem somewhere else that's what's going to happen.
I would /prefer/ a focus on diagnosing and correcting lacking medical treatment (including mental health) and re-integration in to society as a real person.
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And that is fine as long as there is no obligation. But most American restaurants if you don’t tip to the formula they treat you like you’re robbbng them.
Things are different in America - restaurants get a special exemption under labor law [1] that allows them to pay wait staff about 25% of the minimum wage required for all other professions. The social understanding is that patrons are obligated to make up the difference via tips - you have to pay to use their services. The system sucks but that's how it is, if you don't want to tip then you can always eat at McDonal…
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#49Maybe we should not have tips? There is no actual need or advantage to giving people tips, and there are plenty of countries where tipping is not common (including some where cash is still favored over electronic payments). Why not just pay people a fair wage that they can live on?
Well, sure. But that feels like a bit of a dismissal of the issue. New tech has enabled our much more convenient cashless society, but it's left a gaping hole for certain members of that society. It doesn't seem unreasonable that tech might also think about ways to fix that problem too, rather than deferring the awkward stuff to someone/anyone else.
I agree that there are problems with a cashless society. I just do not see the end of tipping as one of those problems.
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Because that would cost the companies more and they're happy to get away with paying less. It's really not a mystery.
In the US, employees must still be paid minimum wage. Depending on the state, an employer may count tips toward this amount. If an employee reports $0 in tips, the employer must pay them $7.25/hr. While I would like to believe that what you say is true, I find it hard to be true. I think the bigger issues are at play whether it's is the fact that minimum wages need to be adjusted, a more modern solution is needed to…
2. The "teach better money management skills" has really nothing to do with this problem, but is continually trotted out as some sort of solution. If you don't have enough money, there's no "managing" it. This isn't an avocado toast problem, it's a wage issue.
Additionally, the incentives are a moving target. For example, with the federal government threatening to end forgiveness plans, can you blame someone for not taking advantage of the option with the potential they will be stuck with the bag, plus interest? Same goes for home ownership incentives, charitable giving incentives, and so on. If the incentive could be gone one day due to the massively complicated and political game that is the tax code, I can hardly blame someone who doesn't have money for a financial adviser for not taking advantage of those programs.