I wonder how much of a cost the Autonavi license cost and if companies that are starting the self-driving cars may be stifled in china for these licenses
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China Blocks Foreign Companies from Mapping Its Roads for Self-Driving Cars
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#22This is a typical China behavior: lie to WTO about how open its economy is, then openly disregard the repriprocity with other countries and block foreign companies from competing.
Thank goodness other countries are waking up:
"The United States, European Union and Japan vowed on Tuesday to work together to fight market-distorting trade practices and policies that have fueled excess production capacity, naming several key features of China’s economic system."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-wto/u-s-eu-japan-sl...
"US formally opposes China market economy status at WTO"
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/30/us-formally-opposes-china-ma...
"TRUMP STARTS NEW WAR AGAINST CHINA OVER 'ECONOMIC AGGRESSION'"
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-starts-new-war-against-china-o...
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
What kind of response would you like to see from the West?
No mapping, no access to our markets for anything mapping related. Fair's fair!
Stop seeing countries as single coherent actors. The best thing to do is for as many governments as possible to stay out of as many people's affairs as possible.
Just because the Chinese government is stopping Alice from mapping Chinese roads doesn't mean your government should stop Bob from buying Chinese maps. Why should your government punish Bob just because the Chinese government punished Alice? Alice and Bob don't even know each other.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
No mapping, no access to our markets for anything mapping related. Fair's fair!
Are there enough Chinese companies doing mapping related things for this to be relevant? There are legitimate security reasons to restrict maps, so this seems unlikely to be something easy to mobilise a larger trade war over.
Well, anything with a GPS in. The value of those devices in the West largely derives from there already being map data for them to use.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
No mapping, no access to our markets for anything mapping related. Fair's fair!
Stop seeing countries as single coherent actors. The best thing to do is for as many governments as possible to stay out of as many people's affairs as possible. Just because the Chinese government is stopping Alice from mapping Chinese roads doesn't mean your government should stop Bob from buying Chinese maps. Why should your government punish Bob just because the Chinese government punished Alice? Alice and Bob do…
Like it or not, countries do exist and are the framework on which commerce is built. Bob will need to shop elsewhere and Alice will need to confront her government over their policies costing her lost sales (if she is Chinese)
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#26Reminds me of how the Soviets supposedly bought different sized rail cars than Europe so that it was harder to invade. Sounds more like a military
protectionist measure than an economic one.
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#27Reminds me of how the Soviets supposedly bought different sized rail cars than Europe so that it was harder to invade. Sounds more like a military protectionist measure than an economic one.
No it was a holdover from the tsarist days when Russia stdardised on a different gauge
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#28Protectionism with Chinese Characteristics
It's a pretty common tactic. Cite "national security" or any other vaguely plausible reason to deny access to non-favored firms (foreign companies, and local companies who don't have the "connections"). If anyone complains, government spokesperson and 50 cent mafia generate lots of angry nationalistic crying. If another country retaliates, same spokesperson and 50 cent mafia will then decry with a straight face how hypocritical "democracies" are and how great Xi Jinping is.
The game plan is simple. Buy and/or steal tech. Rebadge as Chinese, then bankrupt the original creators by leveraging government subsidies and underpaid workers ie Segway.
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#29Business as usual. The real question is why the West sits on its hands.
Probably because it’s none of our business? Literally and figuratively.
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#30Is there any international law or treaty explicitly requiring countries to allow their roads to be mapped by foreign countries/companies?