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How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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The US has decided that its politicians are for auction. I don't see why its a problem if the bidding is from China instead of Comcast? Besides foreign governments have been lobbying in Washington for decades. There is a whole industry about it.

I agree. This is how we are setup. U.S foriegn policy is important for trade, immigration, war, sanctions, etc. There is no other way to get your story through without lobbying.

Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Algeria

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/28/...

Key sentence: "The problem with all of this isn’t the donation, or questions about a quid pro quo with Algeria. It’s the fact that Algeria wasn’t ever on the terror list. "

Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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These allegations are tame compared with what Richard Blum's (husband of Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-CA) financial interests with the Chinese have done. The Chinese even benefited from elements of her so-called Desert Protection Act.

Is there an article you could link to? Interested in the details

Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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Foreign influence in congress may not be the biggest threat to Democracy, but it is one of my biggest pet peeves. A country has vastly greater resources that any other individual, business or entitity. A foreign country's intentions are also potentially far more nefarious than a company lobbying to make more profit in a capatilistic system or an individual wanting government policies to be shaped more according to hi…

> This kind of reminds me how in one of the Wikileak emails, Clinton removed a country from a list of human rights violators for a mere donation. Could you dig that up so we can see it?

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Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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Foreign influence in congress may not be the biggest threat to Democracy, but it is one of my biggest pet peeves. A country has vastly greater resources that any other individual, business or entitity. A foreign country's intentions are also potentially far more nefarious than a company lobbying to make more profit in a capatilistic system or an individual wanting government policies to be shaped more according to hi…

Thanks to the Citizen's United decision that Chinese transnational corporation has the same free speech rights to contribute to a political than an individual US citizen has. While a foreign country can't directly give money to a politician its trivial for them to use a cutout corporation to pass money and influence. And since we recognize corporations as people the US subsidiary of the Chinese cutout has full free s…

I long for the days when you had to bring bags of cash to bribe a congressperson. CU made it simple and hard to trace and even harder to prove.

Re: How China got a U.S. senator to do its political bidding

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The US has decided that its politicians are for auction. I don't see why its a problem if the bidding is from China instead of Comcast? Besides foreign governments have been lobbying in Washington for decades. There is a whole industry about it.

I agree. This is how we are setup. U.S foriegn policy is important for trade, immigration, war, sanctions, etc. There is no other way to get your story through without lobbying.

Isn't that the purpose of diplomats?

"The main functions of diplomats are: representation and protection of the interests and nationals of the sending state; initiation and facilitation of strategic agreements; treaties and conventions; promotion of information; trade and commerce; technology" [1]

Why are we permitting lobbyists to usurp this role?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat

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