A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
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Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#2scuttlebutt is my main social media these days... oh and in case you're looking for git that's not wedded to github via your comments and issues, scuttlebutt plays really well with git - you push comments and code into your gossip-cloud together
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#3> Smartphone manufacturers sell mesh-first mobile devices for the developing world
I hope puri.sm is listening. This is what I want my Librem 5 to be!
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#4I'm all for p2p (really), but how about taking back control (sorry) of the Web by actually developing and enforcing declarative/markup technologies and standards instead of praising JavaScript because "it's not half bad" and adding procedural features to the Web (APIs, WASM)? With the current state of affairs wrt privacy and self-proclaimed standardization bodies, I'm not sure the Web is worth preserving.
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#5scuttlebutt is my main social media these days... oh and in case you're looking for git that's not wedded to github via your comments and issues, scuttlebutt plays really well with git - you push comments and code into your gossip-cloud together
What is it?
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#6I like the phrase "local-first" software.
It's been happening for a while:
https://qbix.com/blog/index.php/2017/12/power-to-the-people/
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#7scuttlebutt is my main social media these days... oh and in case you're looking for git that's not wedded to github via your comments and issues, scuttlebutt plays really well with git - you push comments and code into your gossip-cloud together
What is it?
Secure scuttlebutt is a totally decentralized append-only "blockchain" with a single writer, that is replicated by various peers who want to get the latest posts. Their mantra is "no global singletons".
Scuttlebutt is very good, but it would be cool to generalize it to the multiple-writers situation. Then we could have one standard for decentralized data streams and even currency tokens, without global networks:
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#8I'm all for p2p (really), but how about taking back control (sorry) of the Web by actually developing and enforcing declarative/markup technologies and standards instead of praising JavaScript because "it's not half bad" and adding procedural features to the Web (APIs, WASM)? With the current state of affairs wrt privacy and self-proclaimed standardization bodies, I'm not sure the Web is worth preserving.
HTML with great default styles and better built-in form and interactive elements (date picker, sortable tables) would be ideal. Screw CSS, it slows everything down, just have good defaults and don't let pages mess with them much. If we must have CSS at least jettison the complex parts with animation and such. Make it very, very simple and weak. No Javascript. Can't be trusted if it has the ability to initiate connections or modify form data, isn't useful enough without that to justify the added bloat to the client.
God, it'd feel lightning fast compared to what we have now. And it wouldn't be able to spy on you. A document-centric (once again) web that's somewhat less crippled than Gopher would be amazing, but we absolutely must cut out things like scripting in order to make the client trustworthy (and fast).
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#9scuttlebutt is my main social media these days... oh and in case you're looking for git that's not wedded to github via your comments and issues, scuttlebutt plays really well with git - you push comments and code into your gossip-cloud together
What is it?
If you asked about the GitHub alternative, it's this: https://git.scuttlebot.io/%25RPKzL382v2fAia5HuDNHD5kkFdlP7bG...
Re: A plan to rescue the Web from the Internet
#10The reason the Web needs rescuing is because it's not a particularly well-designed system that has been patched over and over again for the last quarter century. And now it has been degraded to a delivery layer for JavaScript apps, a poor RPC protocol and an overly complex UI rendering toolkit.
It should have had protocol-level technologies for preserving historic data, for search, for offline use, for authoring and publishing. If you look closely, cloud services created tools to easily do all those things and that's how they got in control.
"The Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? The Web, in comparison, is a joke. The Web was done by amateurs." -- Alan Kay.
A lot of web devs were enraged by his comment without listening to the context. He was talking about the lack of protocol-level solutions for resilience of the Web.