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Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by crispinb »

volgo wrote: post #18
clouddrover wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Quantifying karma is a good idea Why? Many people hold many opinions about me, almost all of which are wrong. I don't see the value in a global database of opinions about me which I can't control and which will affect me in ways I can't predict.

I'd find that helpful. If a lot of people have negative opinion about you, you have no place in my life, sorry. I don't want to deal with some society outsider

Ah if only there were more people like you in 1930s Germany.

Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by semperdark »

volgo wrote: post #18
clouddrover wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Quantifying karma is a good idea Why? Many people hold many opinions about me, almost all of which are wrong. I don't see the value in a global database of opinions about me which I can't control and which will affect me in ways I can't predict.

I'd find that helpful. If a lot of people have negative opinion about you, you have no place in my life, sorry. I don't want to deal with some society outsider

This post gave me a negative opinion of you. See how this works?

Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by volgo »

whytaka wrote: post #20
volgo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd find that helpful. If a lot of people have negative opinion about you, you have no place in my life, sorry. I don't want to deal with some society outsider

I believe that is called prejudice. Prejudiced people frighten me, their moral considerations so unthorough, and this makes me think I wouldn’t want to deal with someone like you. But I’d give you a chance first.

It's not prejudice. And big surprise, you're exactly like me, just unwilling to vocalize it.

The fact that people are rushing to downvote me for voicing a contrary opinion (and emboldening others to disagree and downvoting me too) is the exact embodiment of what I just described. Like it or not, human beings don't like outsiders and people that others dislike

Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by volgo »

semperdark wrote: post #22
volgo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd find that helpful. If a lot of people have negative opinion about you, you have no place in my life, sorry. I don't want to deal with some society outsider

This post gave me a negative opinion of you. See how this works?

Exactly. Thanks for proving my point.

Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by lostconfused »

mythrwy wrote: post #12
chrischen wrote: post #3

We have private market ranking systems like your credit score. Quantifying karma is a good idea, if implemented correctly and within limitations of accuracy.

"quantify" and "karma" don't belong in the same sentence.

Yep. That's like one of the key religious/spiritual beliefs. Humans are incapable of good judgment due to lack of omniscience. Nobody can make a proper moral judgment of any individual since you don't have perfect knowledge of all their past and future deeds and circumstances. Even Christianity subscribes to this idea "vengeance is mine". Ballancing of universal scales is best left to a mystical omnipresent entity that has access to every bit of information in existence.

Re: Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking

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Post by jonnybgood »

volgo wrote: post #27
whytaka wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that is called prejudice. Prejudiced people frighten me, their moral considerations so unthorough, and this makes me think I wouldn’t want to deal with someone like you. But I’d give you a chance first.

It's not prejudice. And big surprise, you're exactly like me, just unwilling to vocalize it. The fact that people are rushing to downvote me for voicing a contrary opinion (and emboldening others to disagree and downvoting me too) is the exact embodiment of what I just described. Like it or not, human beings don't like outsiders and people that others dislike

Yes. We already have a silent score we give to people in our minds based on how much conformity is shared. It’s instinctually hardwired in to us.
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