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The Pentagon’s U.F.O. Program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

I don't know, the clouds don't look real to me. I also wonder why resolution mist always be this low, my cell phone ($250) can shoot 4K and a plane that costs millions can't shoot video that is detailed enough to investigate the phenomenon.

>I also wonder why resolution mist always be this low

"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. " -Mitch Hedberg

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The most interesting part to me >Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological change…

Prosaic bits of metal and rock, perhaps, spun to be containing some sort of unknowable potential for unknowable purpose.

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I looks like the plane is making a left turn, and yet the object is dead center in the screen with barely any shake. And it's definitely not stabilized, because all the lines on the display are still. So maybe the pilot has some crazy ability to track a flying object perfectly while turning, but try doing it in any game and I think you will fail.

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Cmdr. Dave Fravor was one of the most squared away F/A-18 pilots in the Navy. He is not some conspiracy "nut" and if he says he saw something, I'd believe him. He is held in high regard by those who served with him.

Cmdr. Fravor was featured in the PBS Carrier series [0][1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_(documentary)

[1] http://www.pbs.org/show/carrier/

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>”...largely funded at the request of Harry Reid...” >”Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s” I don’t know who these people are beyond the fact that one of them was apparently a US senator, but this comes across as capable of being perceived as a conflict of interest (whether true or not). And not necessarily a monetary conflict if…

"And not necessarily a monetary conflict if the recipient was indeed a billionaire."

I have never heard of a billionaire who said, he has enough money ...

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There's no doubt there's a kind of aura of ridicule around the subject of UFOs and I'm sure credible people don't want to be associated with it.

That being said, I think it's something worthy of exploration. My interest in the subject really began when I listen to people around me who saw and experienced things. It's one thing to read books or watch documentaries about UFOs, but it's another when normal "everyday people" who aren't interested in this kind of thing tell you their stories.

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The most interesting part to me >Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological change…

Prosaic bits of metal and rock, perhaps, spun to be containing some sort of unknowable potential for unknowable purpose.

There's also "unexplained aerial phenomena" as the generic cover for materials recovered from the secret research programs of other countries.

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I looks like the plane is making a left turn, and yet the object is dead center in the screen with barely any shake. And it's definitely not stabilized, because all the lines on the display are still. So maybe the pilot has some crazy ability to track a flying object perfectly while turning, but try doing it in any game and I think you will fail.

I know nothing about the current state of military tech, but that looks like a targeting camera that has some sort of edge detection allowing it to track the object.

The vertical lines to the left and right of the object appear computer controlled, to me, especially because they track the left and right edges of the object and the vertical length changes in a way that seems reactive to the object on screen.

The brief moment where those lines don't have the object centered and then it just jumps back into place (at the very end of the video ~31-32s) screams computer assisted to me.

In short, I don't think that's manual tracking, because I'm pretty sure that even a Navy pilot would have trouble tracking it that perfectly by hand.

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