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Is This Genocide?
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#32Woah! Has to be the most heart wrenching article I’ve read in 2017! Babies and children slaughtered by hand, houses set on fire, in such large scale. The evil that exists in the world is just crazy. I kinda wish I didn’t read the article.
Don't read the comments, they'll make it even worse.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is how ISIS was created after USA terrorise Muslims in the region raping, killing.
That's incorrect. ISIS was created out of a power vacuum in the region, between the US being asked to leave Iraq and the Iraqi Government becoming strong enough to control its own security fully, and the Syrian civil war. Their creation had absolutely nothing to do with US military abuses of that sort (which is not the same thing as denying any such abuses took place), that's not even a very good attempt at scapegoat…
Guess you should acknowledge the US invasion as the initial trigger.
Then the fiasco that unfolded, with people like Wolfowitz, Bremer, etc making every single possible mistake there is. Dissolve the Iraqi army? Sure, why not?
Incomptence galore, back in full swing in the Trump admin.
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#34To all the people saying the woman whose baby daughter was thrown in a fire was lying or the 14 year old girl who was raped by four soldiers was lying, fuck you.
> The attack on Tula Toli has been well documented by human rights organizations, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Fortify Rights, and it is substantiated by satellite photos showing the burned huts. In all, I spoke to seven people who said they were survivors from Tula Toli, and their stories meshed and cross-confirmed one another.
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#35I have no idea why an American should care one iota about some abstruse ethnic conflict literally on the other side of the world. You are spectacularly unlikely to be able to figure out based on thirdhand reporting who is metaphysically in the right, if there is such a party, and almost anything you do is likely to make the situation worse.
We, as Americans, should employ more of a hands-off policy with the rest of the world. Playing "team America world police" is a drain on our resources and efforts - and above all absolutely needless. I don't care one whit what happens out there but from all 'boots on the ground' accounts, Myanmar is responding to long (years/decades) tolerated abuses by "refugees" by getting rid of them.
If you're pissing off monks enough that they're moved to eradicate you from their lands, you've seriously screwed up.
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#36Yes, obviously. It's obvious in the first paragraph. Why isn't the article called, the "The Rohingya Genocide". Didn't we learn anything from Rwanda?
The USA ratified the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention. That makes Washington loath in using the word. So, the New York Times isn’t doubting this is genocide; it is asking Washington to acknowledge it and take action (http://www.economist.com/node/18772664: As Samantha Power, an author who works for President Barack Obama, has disclosed, a paper by a Pentagon official urged caution in using the G-word: “Be careful …Genocide finding could commit [the government] to actually do something.”)
I can’t find a reference, but I think there is a more recent, stronger statement by the USA that requires them to take action as soon as politics declares something as genocide anywhere in the world.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they were literally the enemy in WWII. The line right above what you posted, but conveniently didn't quote.
Burma was a British colony during WWII. Are you really going to call someone the enemy for not siding with the murderous regime of imperial Japan?
I think what is being talked about is this, or what happened, right nextdoor by essentially the same organisation, and therefore what could reasonably have been expected to happen if the revolution by muslims had succeeded:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_vio...
So yes, this is a bit of a case of "A tried to commit genocide on B. B won and, as it turns out, is not happy with the attempt".
One might also point out that the treatment of non-muslims in the original country of these people (Bangladesh) is worse, in terms of legal rights, in terms of treatment by the security forces, in terms of destruction, in terms of death toll, ... and yet ... no complaints from the UN, and certainly no action by anyone.
So let's just stop joking here: these people are being attacked because they directly attacked the security forces. That sucks. But these people also constantly commit violence against minorities in their midst (in fact that's how this conflict started), so let's just not pretend otherwise : yes, Rohingya are losing here, and yet they're still the racists in this conflict, and do commit genocide. Such a thing is in fact possible.
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#38We are just arguing over semantics. It’s pure evil and needs to stop. I’m sure the US could intervene, but we’d need far more media coverage to generate outrage. Clinton was able to do it in the Balkans, but you’d need to convince the current administration to get a involved.
Babies in incubaters anyone? Not like it hasn't been done before... Outrage is easier to generate than proof.
I also didn’t consider that China would probably not be happy with the US in their backyard.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Burma was a British colony during WWII. Are you really going to call someone the enemy for not siding with the murderous regime of imperial Japan?
I think what is being talked about is this, or what happened, right nextdoor by essentially the same organisation, and therefore what could reasonably have been expected to happen if the revolution by muslims had succeeded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_vio... So yes, this is a bit of a case of "A tried to commit genocide on B. B won and, as it turns out, is not happy with the attempt". One…
This is largely ridiculous. Many of the Rohingya people fled to Myanmar during the 71' Bangladesh Genocide, which was largely committed by Pakistan. The group responsible for your recent unrest is upset because members of their group have faced war crime trials for their acts during the genocide. Bangladesh itself at least attempts to have religious freedom. And I have no clue what event you're trying to pin on the Rohingya to say they started this conflict.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think what is being talked about is this, or what happened, right nextdoor by essentially the same organisation, and therefore what could reasonably have been expected to happen if the revolution by muslims had succeeded: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_vio... So yes, this is a bit of a case of "A tried to commit genocide on B. B won and, as it turns out, is not happy with the attempt". One…
This is largely ridiculous. Many of the Rohingya people fled to Myanmar during the 71' Bangladesh Genocide, which was largely committed by Pakistan. The group responsible for your recent unrest is upset because members of their group have faced war crime trials for their acts during the genocide. Bangladesh itself at least attempts to have religious freedom. And I have no clue what event you're trying to pin on the R…
You could always read the wikipedia page linked. Clue included.